Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 23rd Jul 2009 22:53 UTC, submitted by Remy Chi Jian Suen
Editorial So, Microsoft submits 20000 lines of code to the Linux kernel, all licensed under the GPL. Microsoft, who considers Linux a great threat, and once called the GPL a "cancer". Opinions on this one are flying all around us, but what does Linus Torvalds, Linux' benevolent dictator, think about all this?
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RE[8]: Embrace Extend Extinguish
by lemur2 on Fri 24th Jul 2009 03:19 UTC in reply to "RE[7]: Embrace Extend Extinguish"
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" If people collaborate with each other, and provide themselves with tools and knowledge through their collaboration, and consequently free themselves from a large abusive corporate who wants to extract a fortune from them for those same things, then how is that a waste?

He has a point, you have crossed the line from normal appreciation to obsession. You are free, as you love to point out many times, to install whatever the hell you want on your computer. So it begs the question, how far does this obsession go? Well clearly you feel that any business is an evil entity for being profitable, ever thought of moving to Cuba?

Oh dear. It clearly is not evil for a business (no matter how large) to make money. Offering wanted goods and services in return for recompense? ... perfectly fair, and indeed good for all.

This is primarily not what Microsoft do however. They buy up competition or force it out of business, and try to make it so that their own poor quality offering is the only thing available on the market.

That is just opression and exploitation.

Large abusive, some might also say this is called competition. You know the old saying, if you can't take the heat get out of the kitchen.

The thing is ... it is Microsoft who cannot stand the competition. Witness the way that Microsoft land on any retailers who try to offer a Linux desktop machine to the public. Witness Microsoft getting Linux netbooks off the shelves. Witness the efforts to corrupt or eliminate open standards such as ODF. Witness Microsoft's trying to hold people's own data to ransom. Witness Microsoft claiming efforts towards "interoperability" but actually producing the ONLY version of ODF files that will not interoperate.

The list of Microsoft not competing, and in fact trying to eliminate all actual competition, is endless.

You know the statement : I may make jokes about Microsoft at times, but at the same time, I think the Microsoft hatred is a disease. I believe in open development, and that very much involves not just making the source open, but also not shutting other people and companies out. There are ‘extremists’ in the free software world, but that’s one major reason why I don’t call what I do ‘free software’ any more. I don’t want to be associated with the people for whom it’s about exclusion and hatred.”

That really refers to people like you.

Yet paradoxically, it is you, not I, who offers the insults and the accusations. Who is it that is actually doing any hating here?

Believe it or not, there is a world much more interesting out there outside of these stupid little ones and zeros. When you have reached a point where the boogey man is hiding around every corner, that is usually a sign to move on in life and seek a different path.

I rest my case.

Edited 2009-07-24 03:24 UTC

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