Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 23rd Jul 2009 22:53 UTC, submitted by Remy Chi Jian Suen
Editorial So, Microsoft submits 20000 lines of code to the Linux kernel, all licensed under the GPL. Microsoft, who considers Linux a great threat, and once called the GPL a "cancer". Opinions on this one are flying all around us, but what does Linus Torvalds, Linux' benevolent dictator, think about all this?
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spanglywires
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2006-10-23

IBM's reaction was to change their corporate behaviour. Turn it around completely.

Hehe, you've obviously never dealt with the money grabbing monster that is International Business Machines. Its interesting that Linus brings them up, as they are the epitome of big bad business in a way that Microsoft can only have wet dreams about.

Actually, IBM donates more than money ... they have donated code. Vast amounts of it. Probably more so than anyone else. See the above comment about "change their corporate behaviour. Turn it around completely". This is an excellent example of exactly that turn-around.

Remember the B in IBM. Where they donate code it is only to ditch unmarketable internal code to boost their open source credentials or to kick a rival (eg Eclipse vs Netbeans). Linux is 'tolerated' only to the expense of SPARC/Solaris at IBM, when the shoe is on the other foot and AIX starts losing share to Linux watch the stance change.

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lemur2 Member since:
2007-02-17

"Actually, IBM donates more than money ... they have donated code. Vast amounts of it. Probably more so than anyone else. See the above comment about "change their corporate behaviour. Turn it around completely". This is an excellent example of exactly that turn-around.

Remember the B in IBM. Where they donate code it is only to ditch unmarketable internal code to boost their open source credentials or to kick a rival (eg Eclipse vs Netbeans). Linux is 'tolerated' only to the expense of SPARC/Solaris at IBM, when the shoe is on the other foot and AIX starts losing share to Linux watch the stance change.
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Au contraire, IBM would probably use Linux in its own products where it made sense. AIX for mainframes, and Linux embedded in products such as this:

http://www-03.ibm.com/products/retail/products/pos/

or this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Gene

or this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cell_processor

Edited 2009-07-24 11:13 UTC

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SReilly Member since:
2006-12-28

Why oh why would IBM use AIX for Mainframes? High end UNIX servers yes, Mainframes definitely not! UNIX is neither stable nor secure enough to be run as a Mainframe OS.

The only bit of UNIX code in zOS is the sandboxed UNIX subsystem, used to enable TCP/IP support in the operating system. In no way does that subsystem have access to the rest of the system without jumping through security hoop after security hoop first.

There are specific processors built in to the Mainframe where the sole reason is to run Linux, but the only reason they are there is so that businesses can run a FLOSS stack on their Mainframes in a sandboxed environment. Mainframe software usually costs a fortune to buy and maintain, the price of which makes the cost of the hardware pail in comparison, so being able to run Tomcat on zLinux is far cheaper than say Websphere on zOS.

But if IBM where to announce the replacement of zOS with AIX, I can guarantee that customers would no longer be renewing their contracts.

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lemur2 Member since:
2007-02-17

Remember the B in IBM. Where they donate code it is only to ditch unmarketable internal code to boost their open source credentials or to kick a rival (eg Eclipse vs Netbeans). Linux is 'tolerated' only to the expense of SPARC/Solaris at IBM, when the shoe is on the other foot and AIX starts losing share to Linux watch the stance change.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_Roadrunner

Roadrunner is a supercomputer built by IBM at the Los Alamos National Laboratory in New Mexico, USA. Currently the world's fastest computer, the US$133-million Roadrunner is designed for a peak performance of 1.7 petaflops, achieving 1.026 on May 25, 2008, and to be the world's first TOP500 Linpack sustained 1.0 petaflops system. It is a one-of-a-kind supercomputer, built from off the shelf parts, with many novel design features.

In November 2008, it reached a top performance of 1.456 petaflops, retaining its top spot in the TOP500 list. It is also the fourth-most energy-efficient supercomputer in the world on the Supermicro Green500 list, with an operational rate of 444.94 megaflops per watt of power used.


The Roadrunner uses Red Hat Enterprise Linux along with Fedora as its operating systems.


Edited 2009-07-24 11:50 UTC

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