Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 23rd Jul 2009 22:53 UTC, submitted by Remy Chi Jian Suen
Editorial So, Microsoft submits 20000 lines of code to the Linux kernel, all licensed under the GPL. Microsoft, who considers Linux a great threat, and once called the GPL a "cancer". Opinions on this one are flying all around us, but what does Linus Torvalds, Linux' benevolent dictator, think about all this?
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RE[8]: I agree...
by nachokb on Fri 24th Jul 2009 14:56 UTC in reply to "RE[7]: I agree..."
nachokb
Member since:
2009-07-13

I couldn't agree more.

BTW, can somebody point me to *anyone* who has complained about this Microsoft contribution?? Why the rage?? Is it all speculation?? Or are they again simply trying to portray FOSS guys as immature hippie whiners? It seems to me that some commenter said something stupid and the media, being desperate to get a story where there isn't one, is attributing that to FOSS people...

OTOH, when someone says that everything RMS says or do is because he hates MS, it makes me laugh. The guy has kept consistent to his message for 30 years (and then he might even not have heard of MS), never mentions MS without "or any other proprietary company", and it all, frankly, smells of desperate faux-journalists [1]. When they mock his values as hippies or extremist, that gets me angry.

Furthermore, this hysteria seems to be inhibiting some needed analysis, as MS has previously been criticized for using GPL software (TCP/IP stack) while vilifying and downright FUDing its very license, to the point that they chose to rewrite it all. With this release, the next adjective they choose to throw at it will be perceived as a joke. Their message got slightly weakened (they surely must be needing to boost Hyper-V). How MS's attack position on FOSS evolves is important.

nachokb

[1] "There hasn’t been a Richard Stallman “over my dead body” diatribe about the Microsoft code (yet)." --- http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=3414

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RE[9]: I agree...
by Mark Williamson on Fri 24th Jul 2009 15:14 in reply to "RE[8]: I agree..."
Mark Williamson Member since:
2005-07-06


Furthermore, this hysteria seems to be inhibiting some needed analysis, as MS has previously been criticized for using GPL software (TCP/IP stack) while vilifying and downright FUDing its very license, to the point that they chose to rewrite it all.


When did MS use a GPL TCP/IP stack? I know they moved to a BSD-based one (around Win 2K, I think), as the license allowed (in fact, AFAIK they have publicly stated that they approve of the BSD and similar licenses).

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RE[10]: I agree...
by PlatformAgnostic on Fri 24th Jul 2009 17:04 in reply to "RE[9]: I agree..."
PlatformAgnostic Member since:
2006-01-02

No shipping version of Windows ever had a BSD-derived network stack. The BSD TCP/IP stack was used through a long-discarded STREAMS wrapper in the NT 3.1 days as the system was being bootstrapped, but by the time NT reached 3.5 (the first one which shipped widely) the TCP stack was replaced by one written entirely in-house.

The User-Mode network utilities like ftp, telnet, and rsh are BSD-derived. As are probably the Services For UNIX utilities.

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