Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 24th Jul 2009 21:07 UTC
Windows The browser saga between Microsoft, the EU, and various browser makers just got a new chapter. We all know how the EU and Microsoft are in a legal tussle over the inclusion of Internet Explorer with Windows. Microsoft surprised everyone in June by announcing that Windows 7 would ship without Internet Explorer in Europe, a move it had hoped would silence the EU. The EU and Opera, however, were not impressed, and now Microsoft has caved in to the pressure.
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Make it modular like e.g. Linux
by bralkein on Fri 24th Jul 2009 22:34 UTC
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The cool thing about Linux is that it is quite modular, so you can build it up to be whatever you want or strip it down to be nice and slim. On my laptop it is over 10GB with all the random stuff I have installed, but on my ADSL modem it is under 2MB, and that's including a web interface!

What the EU want is a basic level of modularity on Windows so that the OEM PC retailers decide what goes on the PCs, and not MS. I think that would be a good thing for everyone.

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PlatformAgnostic Member since:

That would be a terrible idea. Microsoft invests a lot of money and time in most of the user-visible components of Windows. Some OEMs are better than others, and in some cases users will get machines that have important components that simply don't work as well (or as securely) as the corresponding existing Windows component.

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blitze Member since:

Given the way OEM's detroy MS based installs with their crapware - your suggestion seems to me at least, the most bone headed idea yet. It is MS's OS and they should have more say over what get's thrown onto it when it is bundled with hardware.
Could you imagine Apple's OS-X environment if PC OEM's had their way with that - your touted User Experience would be thrown out the window.

OEM's are the problem and although I'm happy for a push to a level of OS modularity with Windows, allowing OEM's to dictate the user environment will just frustrate the end user even more and cause more bitching about Windows.

p.s. - when are we seeing this ballot idea occuring on other OS's? What's good for the goose is good for the gander so Linux and OS-X installs should have the same limitations imposed on them in the desktop environment or stop bitching. This from a Windows/Opera user.

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Deviate_X Member since:

Yes. But you have forgotten that OEM PC retailers can choose to put modular Linux on PCs instead of Windows. MS does not tell OEM's what OS to put on their PCs.

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molnarcs Member since:

... MS does not tell OEM's what OS to put on their PCs.

This must be one of the most naive statements I've read recently ;)

Of course it does, it puts OEMs under considerable pressure NOT to install alternative OSs (through economic "incentives" like offering considerable discount on OEM licences as long as they don't offer alternative X across their product lines). This has been proven on countless occasions, plus this is precisely what the EU has been investigating before MS caved in.

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MollyC Member since:

It allows a hardware maker to add as little of the OS as required. The hardware usually is some dedicated device rather than a general purpose computer, but maybe an OEM could try to use Windows Embedded if they want to play around with what parts of the OS to include. It wouldn't make sense to do so, but I think it's possible.

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