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But who gave Palm the vendorID? I believe that it was the USB Implementers Forum that hands out the Product IDs. Just because Apple uses the vendorID to tell what's an Apple iPod and what isn't, doesn't mean that Palm ever made any agreement with Apple to only identify its devices as Palm devices. Palm made that agreement with the USB Implementers Forum. And what I'm wondering is whether Palm can just back out of that agreement. Apple doesn't have anything to do with Palm's relationship with USB Implementers Forum.