Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 27th Jul 2009 07:29 UTC
Opera Software Last week, the European Commission announced that Microsoft is willing to implement a browser ballot screen in Windows so that users can select a browser to install when installing Windows or when setting up their OEM computer. While this makes Opera very happy, Opera would like to see Ubuntu and Apple offer such a ballot screen too.
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Comment by me
by pandronic on Mon 27th Jul 2009 08:03 UTC
pandronic
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2006-05-18

I'm starting to dislike Opera. All they really seem to want is to promote their browser for free while pretending to be champions of freedom.

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RE: Comment by me
by sbergman27 on Mon 27th Jul 2009 14:45 in reply to "Comment by me"
sbergman27 Member since:
2005-07-24

I'm starting to dislike Opera. All they really seem to want is to promote their browser for free while pretending to be champions of freedom.

Indeed. If they want into Debian, Ubuntu, and Fedora then they need to start acting like good citizens of those communities. Instead, they champion the free beer but closed source approach and then expect to be loved so much as to be granted an exception to those distros' usual policies.

Opera neither talks the talk nor walks the walk. So I'll give them credit for at least avoiding hypocrisy. But it seems like all they ever want is a handout, when what they really need to be doing is *competing* for the markets they want to play in. And that entails giving consumers in those segments of the market what they want. And in general, a big hunk of closed, proprietary code at the heart of their otherwise open OS is not what people in that market are looking for. Those who don't mind are already perfectly free to download and install it themselves, and are much more likely to know about Opera and be capable of doing that than are, in general, Windows users.

Edited 2009-07-27 14:48 UTC

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RE[2]: Comment by me
by hangman on Mon 27th Jul 2009 22:13 in reply to "RE: Comment by me"
hangman Member since:
2007-09-05

expect to be loved so much as to be granted an exception to those distros' usual policies

Excuse me, but did you actually read what the guy said? He never said that Opera NEEDS to be included, just that it MAY be a good idea to offer alternatives (and he didn't specify which alternatives).

Opera neither talks the talk nor walks the walk.

Huh?

But it seems like all they ever want is a handout,

So Google and Mozilla only ever want a handout as well, since they are part of the complaint?

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RE: Comment by me
by hangman on Mon 27th Jul 2009 22:14 in reply to "Comment by me"
hangman Member since:
2007-09-05

Um, did you actually READ the article instead of just swallowing the author's sensationalist BS?

What Opera's CTO actually said: "Apple and Ubuntu are not monopolies as per the legal definition of a monopoly. Still, it may be a good idea to offer it"

He didn't even specify that it could be Opera!

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RE: Comment by me
by Eddyspeeder on Tue 28th Jul 2009 02:51 in reply to "Comment by me"
Eddyspeeder Member since:
2006-05-10

Though I agree with Opera that there should be an equal treatment for all OS vendors, Opera definitely does not have the right to make such comments.

Opera is acting like the telltale boy in class here.

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RE[2]: Comment by me
by hangman on Tue 28th Jul 2009 15:36 in reply to "RE: Comment by me"
hangman Member since:
2007-09-05

Um, did you actually READ the article instead of just swallowing the author's sensationalist BS?

What Opera's CTO actually said: "Apple and Ubuntu are not monopolies as per the legal definition of a monopoly. Still, it may be a good idea to offer it"

He didn't even specify that it could be Opera!

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