Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 27th Jul 2009 07:29 UTC
Opera Software Last week, the European Commission announced that Microsoft is willing to implement a browser ballot screen in Windows so that users can select a browser to install when installing Windows or when setting up their OEM computer. While this makes Opera very happy, Opera would like to see Ubuntu and Apple offer such a ballot screen too.
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While we're at it...
by leech on Mon 27th Jul 2009 13:03 UTC
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Let's also have choices of text editors too, vi or nano or emacs!

All craziness aside, while I tend to agree with the fact that IE pretty much sucks because it's not standards compliant, and that MS purposefully made it as such, then bundled it with the OS to try to rule the Web.

What I don't agree with is the EU sticking their nose into it because Opera is being a cry baby.

The reason it'll never happen with Linux distributions is because Opera is closed source. The end. No other arguments could make any Linux Distro provide an option for it.

What MS should do is just set up a web page that is set to the default HOME page for IE when you first install. This page should say 'If you think our product sucks, you can also try any of these Web Browsers.' Or something like that. IE itself has too many APIs and libraries embedded deep within Windows to fully pull all of it out.

I wonder how well it would work for those programs that directly run iexplore.exe if you made that some sort of short cut to point to firefox.exe ;)

Anyhow, just some random thoughts I chose to share.

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RE: While we're at it...
by bert64 on Mon 27th Jul 2009 18:33 in reply to "While we're at it..."
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Users should have a choice of text editor, tho the choice should really be made by the OEM... The OS should just be a basic set of libraries that follow a published standard, and then applications can be written according to that standard to run on it.
Multiple vendors can write an implementation of the standard (OS) and a wide variety of applications can be run on it.

Before you say this won't happen, consider that it works for pretty much everything except software... You can buy a cpu from Intel, AMD, VIA and maybe some others and they all implement the same standard (x86).. You can buy a TV from hundreds of different suppliers, and they all implement the same standards (PAL, NTSC, 720p, 1080i etc).

People are not clones, we are all individuals and all have our own preferences, everyone using the same software is even more ridiculous than the idea of everyone driving the same type of car or living in the same kind of house... More ridiculous because computers are complex machines, almost like organisms, and a monoculture is extremely dangerous.

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How about memory managers?
by MollyC on Tue 28th Jul 2009 00:40 in reply to "RE: While we're at it..."
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I remember in the DOS world, that 16-bit memory managers was an independent market, a market destroyed by Windows 3.0. Thank God the EC didn't interfere in that. We'd have a ballot for memory managers if the EC of today were in place back then. Same goes for file systems, Explorer/Finder shells, and other things for which there is or have been independent markets yet have now become understood to be standard parts of an OS.

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