Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 27th Jul 2009 07:29 UTC
Opera Software Last week, the European Commission announced that Microsoft is willing to implement a browser ballot screen in Windows so that users can select a browser to install when installing Windows or when setting up their OEM computer. While this makes Opera very happy, Opera would like to see Ubuntu and Apple offer such a ballot screen too.
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RE: Shove Off Opera
by B12 Simon on Mon 27th Jul 2009 14:39 UTC in reply to "Shove Off Opera"
B12 Simon
Member since:
2006-11-08

While Internet Explorer was just one example of the monopoly that we face with desktops today I believe that far more could be done in a lot of more worthwhile areas than trying to fixate on the browser.

It bothers me that a company like Opera thinks that it can just avoid any change, sit on its backside effectively, keep cranking out browsers for a living and have a right to get a shop shelf built for them. The market for web browsers can't just avoid change because of a mandate to suit Opera. Web browsers have been freely available for some time now and freely available software is always going to have a better chance of being distributed into the hands of many people, especially when it comes to Linux distributions. If you're not prepared to open your code, or at least get it distributed more easily, then tough.


I'd say that, as a browser company, Opera are right to fixate on the browser.

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RE[2]: Shove Off Opera
by segedunum on Mon 27th Jul 2009 17:09 in reply to "RE: Shove Off Opera"
segedunum Member since:
2005-07-06

I'd say that, as a browser company, Opera are right to fixate on the browser.

Then they're going to have to make it, and the business model they have around it, relevant rather than trying to shoe-horn their product in front of users.

They say that the battle is really for the enterprise. Well, you do that by looking at the browser as a development platform and a supporting 'ecosystem' around it. If you don't have that then no one wants you, and that's what Opera has today. Who's to say a web browser will look and act the same in five years? You can't just protect Opera and others from that uncertainty by enforcing some browser 'ballot' application that helps users install their product. It's flat out laziness and cheek.

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RE[3]: Shove Off Opera
by hangman on Mon 27th Jul 2009 22:19 in reply to "RE[2]: Shove Off Opera"
hangman Member since:
2007-09-05

Then they're going to have to make it, and the business model they have around it, relevant rather than trying to shoe-horn their product in front of users.

How are they "shoe-horning"? Opera is just one of the companies involved in the complaint. Google, Mozilla, etc. are involved as well.

You can't just protect Opera and others from that uncertainty by enforcing some browser 'ballot' application that helps users install their product. It's flat out laziness and cheek.

What on earth are you talking about? The ballot is meant to restore competition in the browser market. Mozilla and Google are behind this as well.

But all you people seem to do is whine about Opera. The ignorance is astounding.

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