Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 27th Jul 2009 07:29 UTC
Opera Software Last week, the European Commission announced that Microsoft is willing to implement a browser ballot screen in Windows so that users can select a browser to install when installing Windows or when setting up their OEM computer. While this makes Opera very happy, Opera would like to see Ubuntu and Apple offer such a ballot screen too.
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RE: While we're at it...
by bert64 on Mon 27th Jul 2009 18:33 UTC in reply to "While we're at it..."
bert64
Member since:
2007-04-23

Users should have a choice of text editor, tho the choice should really be made by the OEM... The OS should just be a basic set of libraries that follow a published standard, and then applications can be written according to that standard to run on it.
Multiple vendors can write an implementation of the standard (OS) and a wide variety of applications can be run on it.

Before you say this won't happen, consider that it works for pretty much everything except software... You can buy a cpu from Intel, AMD, VIA and maybe some others and they all implement the same standard (x86).. You can buy a TV from hundreds of different suppliers, and they all implement the same standards (PAL, NTSC, 720p, 1080i etc).

People are not clones, we are all individuals and all have our own preferences, everyone using the same software is even more ridiculous than the idea of everyone driving the same type of car or living in the same kind of house... More ridiculous because computers are complex machines, almost like organisms, and a monoculture is extremely dangerous.

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How about memory managers?
by MollyC on Tue 28th Jul 2009 00:40 in reply to "RE: While we're at it..."
MollyC Member since:
2006-07-04

I remember in the DOS world, that 16-bit memory managers was an independent market, a market destroyed by Windows 3.0. Thank God the EC didn't interfere in that. We'd have a ballot for memory managers if the EC of today were in place back then. Same goes for file systems, Explorer/Finder shells, and other things for which there is or have been independent markets yet have now become understood to be standard parts of an OS.

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RE: How about memory managers?
by sbergman27 on Tue 28th Jul 2009 01:25 in reply to "How about memory managers?"
sbergman27 Member since:
2005-07-24

I remember in the DOS world, that 16-bit memory managers was an independent market,

But it never should have been. Clearly memory management is an OS function. And it was clear back then. We had real operating systems like Unix and VMS for comparison. (Not to mention my old college CS textbooks.) And we all knew that the lack of mm in DOS was a deficiency.

You really cannot compare that with a web browser, which is clearly an application, not an OS function. At least outside of the fantasies of certain MS execs. And even they seem to have backed off from that fiction in recent times. Last I heard, Gates had even learned the meaning of the word "browser".

Edited 2009-07-28 01:28 UTC

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