Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 27th Jul 2009 07:29 UTC
Opera Software Last week, the European Commission announced that Microsoft is willing to implement a browser ballot screen in Windows so that users can select a browser to install when installing Windows or when setting up their OEM computer. While this makes Opera very happy, Opera would like to see Ubuntu and Apple offer such a ballot screen too.
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The difference here is that if you don't like Windows, you don't have a different distributor or different version of Windows without a particular browser.
If you dont like IE bundlded with windows, you have choice to install FF, Opera, chrome(which are free).
I always use FF but dont cry about having IE residing on my system.
One more gripe, when installing FF or opera, I dont get ballot box to install default search engine. FF installs google as default search engine at top right hand box.

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Your point was that Kubuntu includes konqueror and ubuntu imposes a default browser which you must uninstall and replace after the liveCD image is stamped out. You then support this point by suggesting that Windows allows multiple browsers to be installed although you can't actually uninstall IE.

Nice.. I see you've thought your argument through in great detail.

My point was that if you don't like the defaults in Ubuntu, you can change them completely; as in, the browser you choose not to use wont' be opened by default constantly. If you don't like KDE, change it. Your not locked into that choice by the OS platform. Don't want to be mucking about with alternative desktop environments; no problem, look at distributions that default to your preferred desktop environment. Your not bound to a single software vendor or imposed choice selection.

Your complaint, meant to support IE bundling, is that Linux distributions include default software selections; by the design of the distribution and by anti-trust law, these are not the same thing.

(Edit): I missed your mention of default search engines. On Mandriva with Firefox, I see the search field in the upper right corner. I also see a dropdown menu arrow beside the [G] which provides easy access to other search engines. On Debian Lenny with Iceweasel, I see the search field in the upper right corner. I also see a dropdown menu arrow beside the [G] which provides easy access to other search engines.

To be honest, on Windows with Internet Explorer, the page it stops you at on first run is a pain. On the rare occasion that I have to use it (Windows Update, MSN decided to open it or some badly written website requires it) and it's a first time run, I just want the page I'm going to not a question and answer period. I click through it's defaults and go back later to change anything I care about.

I also see a difference between a browser's default of a third party search engine both of which are not subject to anti-trust laws versus an imposed non-removable browser selection chosen for me by a company which is subject to anti-trust laws.

Edited 2009-07-28 01:57 UTC

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