Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 27th Jul 2009 20:10 UTC
KDE For a very long time now, I've been on the hunt for a distribution that really put a lot of effort into their KDE4 implementation. This has been a frustrating search, full of broken installations, incredibly slow performance, and so many visual artifacts they made my eyes explode. Since KDE 4.3 is nearing release, I had to pick up this quest in order to take a look at where 4.3 stands - and I found a home in the KDE version of Fedora 11. Read on for a look as to where KDE 4.3 currently stands.
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RE: Not many good KDE4 distros
by ple_mono on Mon 27th Jul 2009 20:59 UTC in reply to "Not many good KDE4 distros"
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If you want good out of the box KDE4 experience, try Pardus 2009 distribution.

If you want to go do-it-yourself way, try installing Arch Linux and using kdemod repos.

Personally, i haven't tried Fedora with KDE. Kubuntu needs to be much improved to match Ubuntu's user experience.

I can only second that. Pardus is an insanely polished kde4 desktop. I like how they have integrated pardus specific system settings (that are not part of kde system settings) as .kcm modules, so they are integrated in system-settings. Kubuntu does that too, but the kubuntu system-settings havent got very many kubuntu specific .kcm modules ATM.
EDIT: pardus 2009 is only at kde 4.2 yet, though!

Too bad the PISI package manager in pardus doesn't remove unused dependencies upon package removal though. That is where i draw the line unfortunately.
A modern package manager should, IMHO at least, remove unused dependecies on package removal, and also log install reason so that i can see what packages i installed *explicitly*.

Edited 2009-07-27 21:02 UTC

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Pardus and Package Management
by sebas on Mon 27th Jul 2009 21:29 in reply to "RE: Not many good KDE4 distros"
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I agree that Pardus really delivers a very polished KDE experience, the team is doing awesome work and I can only commend their integration between KDE and the underlying Linux system. Definitely worth looking at.

On the account of removing "unused" packages, I'm not so sure about it. I'm using a bare-bone Kubuntu system with KDE compiled from SVN (I'm a KDE developer). At least the list of packages APT gets me that are unused are all actually packages that I want to have on the system, libraries that "seem" unused are actually needed to compile the other software I'm using on my system. I'd definitely not want to uninstall "unused" dependencies automatically since I often want to keep packages that I've installed by means of a dependency. It's probably not the most wide-spread use case with Linux becoming more and more popular, so not sure how much that counts.

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Funny you should elaborate on kubuntu in particular. Guess what has sparked me recent interest in this? apt *inability* to present me a list of packages i've installed by hand. Even though apt does remove "uneeded dependencies" upon package removal, it's a very complex guessing game, because dpkg/aptitude/apt-get/synaptic/tasksel has this old and increasingly complex relationship. And it doesn't get it right every time. Especially when dealing with "metapackages" and task.
I'm not saying ubuntu / debian got it right. I'm saying the architecture of PISI is beautiful, and the python code is very lean. It wouldn't be too hard to implement "autoremove" and proper marking of packages install reason (manual/automatic), and the introduction of hard/soft depends.
Take a look on pacman in arch linux. That's a work of art if you ask me.

Edited 2009-07-28 00:08 UTC

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Elv13 Member since:

If you compile stuff by yourself, you don't want that kind of behavior, it should never end up as a default option.

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RE[2]: Not many good KDE4 distros
by KenP on Tue 28th Jul 2009 01:03 in reply to "RE: Not many good KDE4 distros"
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Pardus 2009 is an excellent KDE4 distribution. Its well customised and has system configuration tools that are Qt/KDE4 friendly as opposed to GTK+ ones for most other distributions.

To see how well a KDE4 desktop can look and behave, Pardus is the way to go -- release 2009.

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