Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 27th Jul 2009 07:29 UTC
Opera Software Last week, the European Commission announced that Microsoft is willing to implement a browser ballot screen in Windows so that users can select a browser to install when installing Windows or when setting up their OEM computer. While this makes Opera very happy, Opera would like to see Ubuntu and Apple offer such a ballot screen too.
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RE[3]: problem with opera
by hangman on Mon 27th Jul 2009 22:15 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: problem with opera"
hangman
Member since:
2007-09-05

Personally, I think Opera's problem is that they think they can sell web browsers when no fewer than four larger organisations (Microsoft, Mozilla, Apple, Google) are giving them away for free. That is *not* a good business model...

Free clue: Opera is a free download!

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RE[4]: problem with opera
by Johann Chua on Tue 28th Jul 2009 09:55 in reply to "RE[3]: problem with opera"
Johann Chua Member since:
2005-07-22

True, for the desktop version...now. For the longest time it was ad-supported unless you paid for a license.

Haven't tried Opera Mobile or Mini so I don't know how good they are, but I gave up on the desktop version's cluttered default UI. Sure, I could customize it, but frankly I had very little incentive for doing so.

Firefox is a RAM hog, but at least the default UI makes sense to me. Wouldn't use Firefox without any extensions, though.

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RE[5]: problem with opera
by hangman on Tue 28th Jul 2009 15:24 in reply to "RE[4]: problem with opera"
hangman Member since:
2007-09-05

So what if Opera wasn't free before? It is now. That's the point.

Opera's UI is cluttered? Yeah, before version 8 perhaps. But since then it has basically looked like any other browser.

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RE[5]: problem with opera
by phoenix on Wed 29th Jul 2009 23:47 in reply to "RE[4]: problem with opera"
phoenix Member since:
2005-07-11

Haven't tried Opera Mobile or Mini so I don't know how good they are, but I gave up on the desktop version's cluttered default UI.


Opera Mini is a dream to use on phones with data plans and horrible built-in browsers (like the Sony Ericsson phones). On a screen as small as ~220x160, even sites like Slashdot and OSNews are usable/readable/navigable. The UI is pretty much invisible until you hit one of the phone's menu buttons.

Can't comment on Opera Mobile.

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