Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 27th Jul 2009 07:29 UTC
Opera Software Last week, the European Commission announced that Microsoft is willing to implement a browser ballot screen in Windows so that users can select a browser to install when installing Windows or when setting up their OEM computer. While this makes Opera very happy, Opera would like to see Ubuntu and Apple offer such a ballot screen too.
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RE[5]: What about Maxthon?
by sbergman27 on Tue 28th Jul 2009 01:11 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: What about Maxthon?"
sbergman27
Member since:
2005-07-24

I think Microsoft should have stayed with their original plan. It's totally legal.

And the worst possible arrangement for the user. Or do you not care about the user?

Right now the EU is saying that the top 5 usage share browsers should appear first, each accompanied by a product pitch, while the rest of the browsers are simply listed below. So the EU is in effect freezing the market into these top 5 browsers. How is a new browser supposed to break into the top 5 when

The goal is to ensure healthy competition, not to make it easy for small-fry competitors. Keep that in mind. The goal is to ensure healthy competition which benefits the citizens of the EU, not to help out underdog browser makers. (A point which Opera has consistently missed, BTW.) The ballot scheme, implemented properly, could achieve that goal. I'm not sure that more than five major browser players would even be beneficial to the people. There's monoculture, there's choice, and then there's anarchy. While I believe deeply in choice, too much can be detrimental. I guess it all depends on how well industry standards are really able to keep things glued together on the web.

If a new browser did come along which was so compelling that people really wanted to use it... well, we already have a precedent for a browser being able to achieve significant share against even greater unfairness. Not a majority share. Not even close to an even share. But surely enough to have gotten it into the top five should this ballot plan be used. I don't see that being a problem with the ballot plan.

Regarding deals with OEMs... I would as soon see that come to an end. Make it a meritocracy. Deals with OEMs are what has given the (Windows) world the gift of crapplets.

Edited 2009-07-28 01:12 UTC

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RE[6]: What about Maxthon?
by hangman on Tue 28th Jul 2009 15:48 in reply to "RE[5]: What about Maxthon?"
hangman Member since:
2007-09-05

The goal is to ensure healthy competition, not to make it easy for small-fry competitors. Keep that in mind. The goal is to ensure healthy competition which benefits the citizens of the EU, not to help out underdog browser makers. (A point which Opera has consistently missed, BTW.)

What on earth are you going on about? Opera is the #3 browser globally:

http://gs.statcounter.com/#browser-ww-monthly-200901-200906-bar

And in Europe Opera is bigger than Safari and Chrome combined!

http://gs.statcounter.com/#browser-eu-monthly-200901-200906-bar

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RE[7]: What about Maxthon?
by sbergman27 on Tue 28th Jul 2009 16:05 in reply to "RE[6]: What about Maxthon?"
sbergman27 Member since:
2005-07-24

What on earth are you going on about? Opera is the #3 browser globally


No. #7 and falling:

http://tinyurl.com/56kp

By the way, I mentioned, yesterday that of the total of 54 posts you have made to OSNews, every last one of them has been cheerleading for Opera, which somewhat compromises your credibility on the topic. However, I should probably update that figure to 65 posts, every last one of them cheerleading for Opera. That as of the time of this post. You seem to be in the middle of another posting binge, Opera fanboy.

Edited 2009-07-28 16:06 UTC

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