KDE 4.3 Shaping Up Nicely, KWin Needs Work
Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 27th Jul 2009 20:10 UTC
KDE For a very long time now, I've been on the hunt for a distribution that really put a lot of effort into their KDE4 implementation. This has been a frustrating search, full of broken installations, incredibly slow performance, and so many visual artifacts they made my eyes explode. Since KDE 4.3 is nearing release, I had to pick up this quest in order to take a look at where 4.3 stands - and I found a home in the KDE version of Fedora 11. Read on for a look as to where KDE 4.3 currently stands.
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RE: KDE Needs a Focused Distribution
by terog on Tue 28th Jul 2009 01:52 UTC in reply to "KDE Needs a Focused Distribution"
terog
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2007-03-09

What KDE needs is a distribution entirely focused on showing off KDE 4 in its best light and integrating the rest of the system with it.


While I agree, I also think it's KDE's fault by not coming up with good defaults to begin with. IMO this is what makes it so difficult for the distributors in the first place.

The fact that it is so difficult also results in inconsistencies between KDE based distributions, which in turn creates uncertainty for the users.

So, maybe some day we'll get that ONE "perfect" distribution for KDE... But that'll never satisfy all users who also might have other preferences (for pkg-management and the like).

Edited 2009-07-28 02:02 UTC

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segedunum Member since:
2005-07-06

[qWhile I agree, I also think it's KDE's fault by not coming up with good defaults to begin with. IMO this is what makes it so difficult for the distributors in the first place. [/q]
I don't think it's KDE's fault at all because the average distributor seems to be so, so poor at making decisions as to what goes in. PulseAudio is the biggest example of an exceptionally poor decision made by many distributors to include it.

Distributors are just no good at putting things together into a coherent whole and making sure that they get involved upstream to make it happen. They're just glorified packagers and you don't get the impression they are putting together an 'operating system'.

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terog Member since:
2007-03-09


I don't think it's KDE's fault at all because the average distributor seems to be so, so poor at making decisions as to what goes in. PulseAudio is the biggest example of an exceptionally poor decision made by many distributors to include it.


I should have said "partly KDE's fault", as I was only talking about the default settings in the DE. This is related to the problem that many people have complained over the years: you often have to tweak KDE yourself in order to get good usability. In contrast to this, Gnome is very often considered to have good defaults and usability.

Let's take this as an example from the article where Thom talks about the problem with the new "drilling" feature:

"It does have an implementation problem, though; as the drilling happens on delayed mouse-over, it often happens by accident when moving your mouse around or when trying to actually open a folder in Dolphin."

I can't believe they're even considering to make it work by mouse-over. I'm sure though, that they'll provide a setting to change it to on-click behavior. This will still mean that the bad default behavior will make it to most of the distributions.

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