Linked by Eugenia Loli on Tue 28th Jul 2009 06:13 UTC
Apple The news just broke that Apple has rejected the official upcoming Google Voice application, and stopped distributing the third party "GV" application, an app that was previously authorized. Read on for a quick commentary, from the point of view of not an Apple or Google fangirl, but from someone who genuinely appreciates VoIP SIP (even if Google Voice itself is not VoIP, read on). For those who have read my blog over the years, would probably remember my VoIP-related rants since 2005. UPDATE: A more direct, more personal, reply from me to Apple and AT&T.
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middleware
Member since:
2006-05-11

The reason why I have much less interesting or passion in smart phone application development (or hacking) than I have in personal computer OS is there are much more constraints in the former. Smart phones don't have free development tool set, comparing to JDK, GCC, make, Xcode. Smart phones' function exposure to its vendor and to ISVs are too asymmetric (Android still discourage the use of native API).

This situation is not made by one company but by all the vendors in the market. Apple is a smart company in it is always just a bit more close than the average. It is the overall atmosphere make Apple willing and dare to do so. If S60 had not relied on Visual Studio but GCC, or Android exposes full-feature C APIs, then Apple just would not have dared to make its iPhone as close as it is, just like Apple never dare to impose any restriction on application development and deployment on OS X.

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spiderman Member since:
2008-10-23

J2ME ftw!!

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chrish Member since:
2005-07-14

iPhone development is free, just download XCode. You have to 'sign up' for an iPhone developer account, but that's free.

Publishing things on the App Store is $100, but I think that's a one-time fee.

- chrish

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suryad Member since:
2005-07-09

Not if you dont have a Mac as far as I know...but then again one could buy the OS and install it in a vm and then download xcode in there and work through a vm but its not free because you have to shell out some cash whereas Android truly is free.

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brain dead hippie Member since:
2007-02-09


Publishing things on the App Store is $100, but I think that's a one-time fee.

- chrish


nope - the $100 is yearly and it's true you can download the dev toolkit for free, you have to pay the $100 if you want to install your programs on your iphone/touch

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jabbotts Member since:
2007-09-06

You might like the Nokia tablets. Not fully a smartphone (lacks the cell radio) but the platform is a Debian fork which is very open to third party hacking. The next version of Maemo is rumoured to be fully open also so even the last holdouts, NIC binary blob etc, should be open source.

Mind you, the device runs Debian, Ubuntu or Android with a little effort also.

(hm.. Skype is great but I could due with Maemo Skype supporting the webcam. I'll have to look at Google Chat again as it's the Nokia recommended app.)

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Bill Shooter of Bul Member since:
2006-07-14

Yes, I might like a Nokia Tablet too. If they weren't out of stock everywhere. Nokia says they've been on backorder for a couple months. I think they're just discontinued. The rumor mill has it that they're going to be reborn as full fledged phones. I wish I could just have one at $300 without begin required to get an expensive data plan.

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smeat Member since:
2006-07-27

Android does expose C and C++ APIs, please keep up on the topics you are trying to sound like an expert on.

http://developer.android.com/sdk/ndk/1.5_r1/index.html

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middleware Member since:
2006-05-11

I have already known of that. I didn't say C++ API not exist, but it is discouraged and not full-feature. You can see NDK doesn't work without SDK and it's use is recommended to be restricted by Google.

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modmans2ndcoming Member since:
2005-11-09

VS Express can do WM development... completely free.

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