Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 29th Jul 2009 22:29 UTC, submitted by JayDee
Windows "Windows 7 Ultimate has been cracked. The pirate milestone, reached almost three months before Windows 7 is set to hit General Availability on October 22, 2009, was achieved via OEM instant offline activation that passes Windows Genuine Advantage validation and keeps the operating system permanently activated. Previous cracks weren't as solid: while they may be working now, they can easily be disabled by Microsoft. This one won't be so easy."
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RE[2]: checksums
by chrish on Thu 30th Jul 2009 12:49 UTC in reply to "RE: checksums"
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People using pirated Windows are people not using other operating systems. Overall, this is a "win" as far as MS is concerned.

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RE[3]: checksums
by afterthot on Thu 30th Jul 2009 14:14 in reply to "RE[2]: checksums"
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People using pirated Windows are people not using other operating systems. Overall, this is a "win" as far as MS is concerned.


I'd argue that many people pirating windows are using other operating systems. Think of the Linux and Mac folk running it in a vm either to play with it or to run their one or two need-to-have windows apps.

I don't know who wins in that case, maybe the app vendor (unless the app is pirated as well. ;> ).

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RE[4]: checksums
by chrish on Fri 31st Jul 2009 01:27 in reply to "RE[3]: checksums"
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It's still Microsoft; Mac and Linux developers don't fill the niche occupied by the "must have" software because there's "no demand"…

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RE[4]: checksums
by Doc Pain on Fri 31st Jul 2009 22:26 in reply to "RE[3]: checksums"
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I'd argue that many people pirating windows are using other operating systems.


I may disagree, at least from my individual observations, located in Germany. Here, people generally don't seem to have problems to use any illegal stuff on their PCs. But allow me to go into detail.

Think of the Linux and Mac folk running it in a vm either to play with it or to run their one or two need-to-have windows apps.


Because Linux and Mac don't exist, they can't be used. :-)

I've usually found the case that those who use Linux and Mac OS X do not want to use pirated copies of anything. On Linux, there's mostly no need to do so because of the free applications (FOSS), and since there's WINE, you don't need an actual MICROS~1 "Windows". But finally, that's arguable.

Another point is... how do I express it... the feeling that it's simply not okay to use pirated copies - software you aren't legally permitted to use - is mostly found among those who use FOSS, while the feeling that there's no problem with such illegal stuff is more and more present in the "I don't care" fraction (long term "Windows" users). "Mens rea" was the term I was searching for.

I don't know who wins in that case, maybe the app vendor (unless the app is pirated as well. ;> ).


The applications - often the most recent and expensive "Office" and "Photoshop" applications - are usually pirated copies, too. Why pay for software when you've got a friend who can get you the install DVDs for free... :-)

But who wins... of course MICROS~1, because even a pirated copy of "Windows" increases their usage share (that's the "opposite" of oh joy oh market share).

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