Should KDE Be Default on openSUSE?
Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 4th Aug 2009 10:43 UTC
SuSE, openSUSE SUSE Linux used to be a very KDE-centric distribution. Then Novell came around, bought SUSE and Ximian, and slowely but surely they turned the now-openSUSE distribution into effectively a GNOME-centric distribution with KDE as its sidekick. The openSUSE community, however, doesn't appear to be particularly happy with KDE being a sidekick.
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sbergman27
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2005-07-24

QT claims to support ATK/AT-SPI. However, Trolltech at the time of QT4's inception decided to communicate with at-spi over the Dbus protocol... which, naturally, at-spi of course didn't support and still doesn't (at-spi uses CORBA). There is work happening on this, but who knows when, or if, it will be completed. Meanwhile, QT4 apps are just as inaccessible as they always were and just as inaccessible as QT3 before them

Wow. I was not aware of that. Certainly that should exclude KDE from government agencies and the bulk of private companies. In fact, I'm wondering how any Linux distro which claims to support freedom and equal opportunity for users could default to it in good faith until such time as that issue is resolved.

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segedunum Member since:
2005-07-06

Certainly that should exclude KDE from government agencies and the bulk of private companies.

Is it any wonder that the wider computing world thinks that a lot of people touting open source desktops are a bunch of masturbating monkeys? There's nothing more hilarious when you see someone absolutely steadfast in their belief that a new lick of paint on the poop deck is what's needed as water gushes in through a gaping hole below decks.

Government agencies, and especially private companies ((!) What planet are you on?), use totally inaccessible applications and set ups all the time. Why? Because they have functionality that they want. If you start touting something to them that cannot run those applications, and has no developer base whatsoever to provide them, then you'll get drop kicked out of the door before anyone even thinks that accessibility is an issue. Organisations cross accessibility bridges when they come to them, and they do it by buying in software most of the time. Now where's that potential developer platform................? There's no guarantees and there's a lot of work to do, but KDE as a default desktop cannot make the situation any worse on that front.

Has SLED or any other 'enterprise' Linux distribution's total inability to gain any traction whatsoever not sunk in anywhere? Something has to give sooner or later.

In fact, I'm wondering how any Linux distro which claims to support freedom and equal opportunity for users could default to it in good faith until such time as that issue is resolved.

1. Because he's wrong.

2. Trying to deny the inevitable and claim that we need to keep rearranging deck chairs in the meantime is not going to get OpenSuse, SLED or desktop Linux anywhere.

But........we've had this brain dead nonsense for the best part of a decade now.

Edited 2009-08-05 12:04 UTC

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sbergman27 Member since:
2005-07-24

There's nothing more hilarious when you see someone absolutely steadfast in their belief that a new lick of paint on the poop deck is what's needed as water gushes in through a gaping hole below decks.

Oh, KDE4 has the water gushing in through a gaping hole below decks, as well. I certainly haven't missed that. The poop deck paint simply happens to be the topic of this thread. And it needs that too.

Regarding your claim that Darknexus is wrong... please present some evidence. Darknexus, who needs and uses these kinds of facilities everyday (and whom I've usually found to be fair on these matters) has a hell of a lot more credibility than you do (whom I've often found to be a bit of a shill). Stop your desktop cheerleading for long enough to actually think for a bit about real users who need accessibility.features.

Edited 2009-08-05 12:21 UTC

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