Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 5th Aug 2009 00:12 UTC, submitted by rexstuff
KDE The KDE team has released KDE 4.3. This release comes packed with improvements and bug fixes - in fact, over the last six months, 10000 bugs were squashed, 2000 feature requests handled, and 63000 changes were checked in by 700 people. We've already talked about this new release in quite some detail last week, but let's take a look at the most important new features anyway.
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RE[7]: KDE/OS
by superstoned on Thu 6th Aug 2009 07:34 UTC in reply to "RE[6]: KDE/OS"
superstoned
Member since:
2005-07-07

True, you make a few good points.

The infrastructure stuff I was talking about was about software. Yast is years ahead of many competing tools, esp for enterprise stuff. The availability of the opensuse build service and suse studio tells you something about what their underlying infrastructure can do. Novell and the other big boys also have much more resources to make a difference, Mandriva is much less capable of employing a bunch of people or sponsoring a lot of money to get something done. And Mandriva, while their desktop is KDE based, is more of a 'best of breed' distro than a pure KDE distro.

Still, as you said, it could be a more flexible company and very friendly towards us. I would however have no idea how to push it more - there aren't many KDE mandriva developers, and to change that things like like good and very up-to-date KDE (development) packages would be needed. A page like this: http://en.opensuse.org/KDE would make a big difference. Latest trunk snapshots, development packages, a simple 2-click installation for all -dev packages for all software on your system, such things make a big difference for developers.

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RE[8]: KDE/OS
by molnarcs on Thu 6th Aug 2009 08:19 in reply to "RE[7]: KDE/OS"
molnarcs Member since:
2005-09-10

Yeah, I forgot about Suse Studio and their build service - in that regard, they are really outstanding when it comes to enterprise solutions. My perspective is more from the point of view of your run-of-the-mill user. I understand, however, that KDE needs to target both, and in fact for at least now, it needs to focus more on the enterprise, since that's where it seems to be lagging behind a little bit.

Would be nice though if there were some talks about how to improve cooperation between the KDE project and supportive distroes. You mentioned Mandriva's tools being GTK for instance... I don't know much about programming, but I was wondering how much it would take to port it to QT, or if there was a willingness with some help on the part of Mandriva's developers to do so. Not that I have a problem with their present UI - it doesn't look too GTKish to really bother me, but it would still be a nice touch. Same goes for their notification system. I'd start with contacting them about future tighter cooperation, and see what parts of the desktop you can work together to improve...

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RE[9]: KDE/OS
by superstoned on Thu 6th Aug 2009 10:11 in reply to "RE[8]: KDE/OS"
superstoned Member since:
2005-07-07

Don't forget we're basically just a bunch of volunteers. Mandriva isn't as open as OpenSuse, (k)Ubuntu and Fedora so it is true that it would probably need some help from the KDE community at large to get cooperation going. However, unless some individual developers are interested, there is little hope of this happening...

This train of thought does however raise an interesting issue. I don't think everyone in our community (that is, the KDE community) is aware of our (market) power. KDE is, depending on the metric you use, the largest or the second largest free software community (eg linux kernel is bigger but that's it). We mean a lot, and if we want something, others often go through a lot of trouble to get it to us.

Maybe this is worth a blog ;-)

Thanks!

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