Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 5th Aug 2009 19:35 UTC
BeOS & Derivatives The Haiku alpha release has always been a bit elusive. The project has been near the alpha release for a while now, but a number of difficult data-destructive bugs kept it at bay. After an informal coding sprint, the alpha is now just a decision away.
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OMG
by transputer_guy on Sat 8th Aug 2009 11:52 UTC
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2005-07-08

I finally tried the latest Haiku image out on a quad core 9400 with 8GB built for OSX and Vista. Haiku booted like a charm after it had first failed on my crufty old BeOS K7 and another old sempron. I had always dreamed this might come true, all 4 cores busy in Haiku land, but couldn't quite believe it. It recognized >3 GB of ram, bye bye the old ram limit.

Vista64 could not write the image file onto anything with flashnul so I put XP back on the old sempron. and flashnul then wrote the USB Flash stick and a 266x CF card with the haiku image just fine.

The CF card only booted on the 9400 with a CF card IDE adapter and it was pretty fast and responsive, but it used up the only IDE slot present. In a USB card reader, no boot. I added a hard drive and initialized it to BFS as a single 140GB partition, another limit gone.

The USB Flash stick also booted fine but was obviously much slower but it freed up the IDE slot for some disk to disk copying. Time to try out some old BeOS apps.

So far the USB, network ports don't seem to work yet, but on board sound did. The nVidia card is limited to 1280,1024 mode. I sure hope one day Haiku will recognize a pair of wide format screens.

Also I see file copying and even deleting continually fail and kernel panic after a few hundred files processed and the copied folders don't always show up. I sure hope these Tracker bugs get fixed soon or it will be difficult to move on.

All in all pretty impressive for pre alpha. Hopefully a lot more developers will come in and squash these bugs. I recommend a fast CF card over USB flash stick, you can still write it with flashnul in a card reader.

Good work Haiku team

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RE: OMG
by umccullough on Sat 8th Aug 2009 14:39 in reply to "OMG"
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2006-01-26

It recognized >3 GB of ram, bye bye the old ram limit.


mm... afaik, Haiku suffers from the same problem of device memory mapped into the 4gb space, pretty certain it doesn't support PAE yet. Maybe you're lucky because it simply didn't support your video card properly ;)

So far the USB, network ports don't seem to work yet, but on board sound did. The nVidia card is limited to 1280,1024 mode. I sure hope one day Haiku will recognize a pair of wide format screens.


You should file a ticket at http://dev.haiku-os.org with your listdev output (or lspci -nn from linux). Most network chips are supported, USB obviously worked, the nvidia card is probably too new. You're likely seeing VESA mode video there (and yes, it's *fast*).

Widescreen monitors are indeed supported, as Haiku drives my 1920x1200 just fine with the intel_extreme driver. I believe there is dual-monitor support with Radeon and nVidia drivers, but certainly not without proper support for your card ;)

Hopefully rudolf will work on that again someday ;)

Also I see file copying and even deleting continually fail and kernel panic after a few hundred files processed and the copied folders don't always show up. I sure hope these Tracker bugs get fixed soon or it will be difficult to move on.


If it's a KDL, it's not a tracker bug, but something wrong either with the filesystem or vfs layer. You obviously need to file bugs on these issues, this stuff has been heavily worked on recently, and some regressions may have been introduced. Could also be driver related i suppose.

All in all pretty impressive for pre alpha. Hopefully a lot more developers will come in and squash these bugs. I recommend a fast CF card over USB flash stick, you can still write it with flashnul in a card reader.


Bugs can't get squashed without reports. So far you're the only one reporting the KDLs during filecopy, so *you* are the only one that can report them. Please do!

As for the whole flashnul/dd thing - Alpha will be released with a LiveCD ISO so more people can install it directly. Just wait ;)

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RE[2]: OMG
by transputer_guy on Sat 8th Aug 2009 18:16 in reply to "RE: OMG"
transputer_guy Member since:
2005-07-08

For the memory, I will try some smaller amounts or less DIMMs to see if that is having some bad effects, 1/2, 1, 2, 4GB etc.

I can also try out some older video cards. Pity I can't use the old BeOS ATI AGP twinhead but that was for dual 1600x1200 CRTs. I am glad you have 1920x1200 working so I will shoot for that too. I also have a 2nd 2048x1152 LCD so that will give any twinhead driver another headache.

On USB I should have said it wouldn't mount hard drives with a USB adapter so far, although the mouse, KB and flash stick worked.

For networking I also tried reusing my trusty old BeOS DEC card but still not connecting.

On file copying, it didn't help that the 2 drives were uncooled and got pretty darn hot. After the reboot the drives were fan cooled and the copying went somewhat better but still freezes or KDLs later. Even BeOS used to have issues with copying x GB drives but I also had 1GB in that box too.

I will be filing tickets as soon as I have tried out a lot more corners with various hardware changes.

Can't wait for the LiveCD ISO now!!!

I see bebits, haikuware are back up, hurrah

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