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OS X "Maximize" Button
by zlynx on Tue 11th Aug 2009 21:15 UTC
zlynx
Member since:
2005-07-20

You doofs ;)

It isn't a maximize button. It adjusts the window to the "best" size. For the Finder it is the size that fits all the icons in the window. For a PDF it is big enough to fit the edges, or the top and bottom. Etc.

Some applications do treat it as a maximize button. However, that is not what they are supposed to do with it. Compare Safari and Firefox to see this.

I am surprised at you all for not realizing how this button works long ago.

It's a very useful button!

RE: OS X "Maximize" Button
by memson on Tue 11th Aug 2009 21:57 in reply to "OS X "Maximize" Button"
memson Member since:
2006-01-01

Moreover, try this:

Open a finder window. Press +, depending on your folder view, you will get one of the following results:

"As Columns" mode: will expand or contract to the last column with information in it.
"As Icons" mode: will expand or contract to show all of the icons (within the given space available)
"As List" mode: will expand or contract to show all of the columns (size, type etc) and will shrink height to fit items in list as icons mode.
"As coverflow" : pretty much does nothing on my Leopard install.

No one ever claimed it was a maximise button, it is a "size to optimal dimensions" button. It always shows the maximum amount of the window it is attached to, when used correctly. Some apps break these rules.

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RE: OS X "Maximize" Button
by Kroc on Wed 12th Aug 2009 09:59 in reply to "OS X "Maximize" Button"
Kroc Member since:
2005-11-10

Its idea of best is often totally whack though. As I had mentioned in the podcast, a default finder window will actually position itself partially off-screen and in the bottm-left-corner of the screen when you click the zoom button.

The response is so unpredictable we just don't ever bother to use it.

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RE[2]: OS X "Maximize" Button
by memson on Wed 12th Aug 2009 10:13 in reply to "RE: OS X "Maximize" Button"
memson Member since:
2006-01-01

The response is so unpredictable we just don't ever bother to use it.


Not on my MacBook. If I open a new finder window (e.g. double click on a volume) I have yet to see it do what you describe. Maybe you are doing something I'm not - maybe the methods we use to open Finder windows differs? No idea.

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RE: OS X "Maximize" Button
by Adam S on Wed 12th Aug 2009 12:12 in reply to "OS X "Maximize" Button"
Adam S Member since:
2005-04-01

This is the silliest comment I've ever heard, because you're defending something that makes no sense to begin with. Not only does it behave unpredictably, as Kroc said, but half the time, on my 24" iMac screen, it actually reduces the size of the window, which is moronic for a button that features a "+" sign.

If it's not maximize, what do you call that button? We all know about the "optimal size" crap, but most of us feel it's a joke.

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RE[2]: OS X "Maximize" Button
by puenktchen on Wed 12th Aug 2009 12:23 in reply to "RE: OS X "Maximize" Button"
puenktchen Member since:
2007-07-27

If it's not maximize, what do you call that button?


fit size to content of window / back to last custom size of window

We all know about the "optimal size" crap, but most of us feel it's a joke.


you are not most of us.

the maximize button of windows and it clones is the gui concept which sucks. its sucks so bad that some user don't even get the existence of something called windows after working with this pos-guis for years. yes, really.

ps: if you want the shitty behaviour of windows, use it.

Edited 2009-08-12 12:24 UTC

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