Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 15th Aug 2009 17:55 UTC
X11, Window Managers Over the past couple of months, and especially over the past couple of weeks, I've been working very hard to write and complete my thesis. I performed all the work on Windows 7, but now that the thesis is finally done, submitted, and accepted, I installed Ubuntu - and immediately I was reminded of why I do not do any serious work on Linux: the train wreck that is X.org.
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X Crashing = BSOD
by AnythingButVista on Sat 15th Aug 2009 18:36 UTC
AnythingButVista
Member since:
2008-08-27

People who like to point out how Linux is so stable not crashing like Windows are people who don't use their computer for personal productivity or enjoyment and only run nerdy CLI tools. The truth is that once X crashes, your productive session is gone, much like it is in Windows when you get a BSOD. I don't care if X may restart on its own - so does a Windows system after a BSOD and in both cases, my session is gone and unsaved work is lost.

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RE: X Crashing = BSOD
by siride on Sat 15th Aug 2009 18:38 in reply to "X Crashing = BSOD"
siride Member since:
2006-01-02

X rarely crashes for most people. I haven't had a legitimate X crash in a long time and I'm even building X from Git master. As with windows, crashes are generally going to be caused by driver bugs.

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RE: X Crashing = BSOD
by kensai on Sun 16th Aug 2009 00:34 in reply to "X Crashing = BSOD"
kensai Member since:
2005-12-27

I am a network administrator for a big company, I use Arch Linux as my main operating system with a virtual windows XP. I have never had to do a hard reboot or hard power off. If the need be, there is always ctrl+sys req+reisub. But even Arch Linux being a rolling release, with always the latest version of a package, and me using the trashy catalyst ati drivers, and no hard power off yet? I don't know but I think I use my system for far more productivity than most of the people. And I manage a network with lots and lots of windows machines, which are always giving problems.

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benir0 Member since:
2006-07-26

The only problem with this argument is that Thome would have us believe that this happens for all install of Linux/Ubuntu. I use Linux for every day desktop use and have for years. My Grandma does. My Mom. If the system is such a wreck then why do they prefer it to the Windows way?

My Linux install is rock solid. It's not used just for "nerdy CLI" tools as one user claimed. I use it for pr0n and facebook just like he does. ;)

Just as Linux users for years have claimed that their OS is better/ready for the masses, Thom now claims that Win is better for similar reasons: obscure technical reasons that effect only a small percentage of users.

Most people do care about crashes and for most people, in my experience, Linux crashes less and gives even novice users a sense of control and privacy that they don't get from Windows. And trust me, I've given Ubuntu disks to some stone-newb users, and so far, without fail, they are impressed and delighted. Then again, they wouldn't know what X is at all.

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