Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 15th Aug 2009 17:55 UTC
X11, Window Managers Over the past couple of months, and especially over the past couple of weeks, I've been working very hard to write and complete my thesis. I performed all the work on Windows 7, but now that the thesis is finally done, submitted, and accepted, I installed Ubuntu - and immediately I was reminded of why I do not do any serious work on Linux: the train wreck that is X.org.
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RE[2]: A Pointless Rant
by werpu on Sat 15th Aug 2009 19:33 UTC in reply to "RE: A Pointless Rant"
werpu
Member since:
2006-01-18

Incredible! I wich I could do a Thesis on how Windows is great and then flame Linux...
Anyway, as some mentionned, this is ridiculous. What have you or the auto-magical scripts done to your xorg.conf. Really I NEVER experienced this kind of crash in 10 years!

Well it is easy to reproduce, simply install a pre 9.7 fglrx driver and then switch on XV and composite :-)
As soon as you resize a video window you will run into a total hang of either X or the kernel.
The latest drivers are better but still crash the kernel at half of the compiz effects.

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RE[3]: A Pointless Rant
by Warnaud on Sat 15th Aug 2009 19:42 in reply to "RE[2]: A Pointless Rant"
Warnaud Member since:
2008-07-07

So? fglrx is developped by the X / compiz team? Don't mix all that and fire on the ambulance...
I did use X with a triple screen on 2 graphic card and I don't experience any crash at all.
You want X to reload when a driver crash? What for? to crash again? And yes THE big problem in Linux is that vendor don't provide (except Nvidia) good drivers oss or not.

Edited 2009-08-15 19:43 UTC

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RE[4]: A Pointless Rant
by Tuishimi on Sat 15th Aug 2009 23:43 in reply to "RE[3]: A Pointless Rant"
Tuishimi Member since:
2005-07-06

So the vendors are the bad guys because software cannot gracefully recover from a driver failure?

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RE[3]: A Pointless Rant
by KugelKurt on Sat 15th Aug 2009 20:03 in reply to "RE[2]: A Pointless Rant"
KugelKurt Member since:
2005-07-06

pre 9.7 fglrx driver

A beta driver? Seriously?

"I installed a beta version and it didn't work as expected! Boohooo!"

I can't even count the crashes I experienced on Windows because of buggy drivers.

I'm not saying that X.org is without faults (see my other comments here), but ranting about a beta driver is pathetic.

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RE[4]: A Pointless Rant
by Tuishimi on Sat 15th Aug 2009 23:44 in reply to "RE[3]: A Pointless Rant"
Tuishimi Member since:
2005-07-06

How many times on a linux-related forum when you post you are having a problem with a driver will the people all scream "YOU SHOULD BE USING THE LATEST TEST DRIVER! It fixes your problems, now SHUT UP complaining already?"

Perhaps not exactly as I worded it, but I think that happens frequently.

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