Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 17th Aug 2009 16:07 UTC, submitted by lemur2
Linux We already discussed David Finch, Dell's senior product marketing manager for Linux clients, last week. We missed, however, some more interesting statements by Finch; Dell is looking into the ARM-based netbook smartbook market, and close to a third of all of Dell's netbooks ship with Linux.
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RE: I do not really get this
by jebb on Mon 17th Aug 2009 17:41 UTC in reply to "I do not really get this"
jebb
Member since:
2006-07-06

Just having a look (on the UK website), it seems like it is now possible to choose the 10v with Ubuntu, and choose a 160GB hard drive in the personnalisation options. It then comes at £238.99, whereas the XP machine with the same hard drive is £249. So there you have it: XP is worth a grand total of £10.01 a pop.

I still think anyone wanting such a large hard drive is missing the point of a netbook, and is likely to be disappointed. If you have the need for 160GB of storage, you'll probably find very quickly that the screen is not high enough, and the keyboard is too small...

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midoriconcept Member since:
2006-12-01

Well the argument about HD size is not really convincing. 8 gigs is very very low. Os would take a couple of gigs, and I may want to load some music and a couple of movies when I take a plane... So 8 gigs is just too low, less than an iPod!

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dragSidious Member since:
2009-04-17

The internet is there for a reason.

At work I listen to music all day long and I don't have a single song on a harddrive or removable device.

http://www.jamendo.com/
http://www.last.fm/
http://www.magnatune.com/
http://somafm.com/
http://www.shoutcast.com/

etc etc.

I also have a streaming server for my private use using Icecast2 from home.

How does your 500GB/s drive compare to the internet?! I'd have to carry around a 5-6TB/s of drive space to get the same selection that I can get from a few sites on the internet.

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jabbotts Member since:
2007-09-06

You can probably stuff a 16 gig SD beside the hard drive or carry a couple of them. USB removable media would also be an option though more external. I'd rather go full notebook for more than music playback (N810 does that very nicely) but I could make it work with 8 gig internal and an SD slot.

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B12 Simon Member since:
2006-11-08

I agree completely. I'm nowhere near filling the 160GB hard drive on my netbook but I've way more than 8GB.

SSD is a technology whose time is coming but bigger drives need to be cheaper before it's useful to me, even in a netbook.

OF course YMMV

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darknexus Member since:
2008-07-15

Actually, 160 gb is not all that much space when you think about it. Personally, I have all my music and audiobooks loaded onto my netbook just like I do on my desktop. That's about 50 gigs right there, way beyond what an 8 gig ssd could offer.

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RE[2]: I do not really get this
by MrWeeble on Tue 18th Aug 2009 11:44 in reply to "RE: I do not really get this"
MrWeeble Member since:
2007-04-18

I got a Dell Mini 9 with a 4GB SSD drive which I am regretting, the OS as it comes takes up well over 2GB. Add a couple of extra applications to it and you soon start filling it up. First time I tried updating I ran out of disk space while downloading the updates. 8GB probably would be fine, 4GB is just too small however.

For my files and stuff, I don't use the SSD, instead I make use of the SDHC slot and have an 8GB card in there with movies and music on, and for more stuff I have a 160GB USB mini harddrive that I take if I need to.

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lemur2 Member since:
2007-02-17

I got a Dell Mini 9 with a 4GB SSD drive which I am regretting, the OS as it comes takes up well over 2GB. Add a couple of extra applications to it and you soon start filling it up. First time I tried updating I ran out of disk space while downloading the updates. 8GB probably would be fine, 4GB is just too small however.

For my files and stuff, I don't use the SSD, instead I make use of the SDHC slot and have an 8GB card in there with movies and music on, and for more stuff I have a 160GB USB mini harddrive that I take if I need to.


This info may help:

http://togaware.com/linux/survivor/Local_Cache.html

The local cache for packages is apparently stored in /var/cache/apt/archive.

To help with your situation, try mounting the /var directory to a different disk other than the 4GB SSD. This can be done via fstab.

Failing that, you could always type in
$ sudo apt-get upgrade

or

$ sudo aptitude dist-upgrade

... and then cancel. Wipe your mouse over the list of individual packages you just cancelled, and paste them into a text file.

Then install them one (or just a few) at a time using:

$ aptitude install <copy_paste_package_name(s)>

The latter method will still (somewhat tediously) achieve the upgrade, but it won't flood your local packages cache.

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