Linked by Jordan Spencer Cunningham on Mon 17th Aug 2009 23:56 UTC
Internet & Networking The beta for Moonlight 2.0 is now available. It's considered feature complete and is ready to test against Silverlight 2.0-minded websites. Microsoft has already gone and released Silverlight 3.0, but the Moonlight team is pretty confident that users will generally be able to access most if not all web content while Silverlight 3.0 is still young. Moonlight will ask to update itself to the beta automatically in Firefox, but new users can also download the plugin.
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RE: Comment by kaiwai
by jstedfast on Tue 18th Aug 2009 12:52 UTC in reply to "Comment by kaiwai"
jstedfast
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What will be interesting is how Novell intends to pay for additional CODEC support in Moonlight 3.0 when it is ready; h264, aac, and a few other CODECs - from the sounds of things, it might get a little expensive.


The Moonlight 2.0 beta already has support for all of the codecs as well as hooks for codec plugins (like Vorbis, Theora and DIRAC).

Microsoft is paying for the licenses.

What I'd like to see are developer tools by Microsoft for Mac OS X and for Novell to create some developer tools of their own to run on Linux which can take advantage of Moonlight as well - it would be a terrible situation if Linux has Moonlight but all development ends up having to be done on a Windows workstation.


Microsoft are paying some third party to develop extensions to Eclipse for Silverlight development.

Novell will be adding support to MonoDevelop for Silverlight development (already started).

Edited 2009-08-18 12:55 UTC

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RE[2]: Comment by kaiwai
by kaiwai on Tue 18th Aug 2009 13:28 in reply to "RE: Comment by kaiwai"
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2005-07-06

The Moonlight 2.0 beta already has support for all of the codecs as well as hooks for codec plugins (like Vorbis, Theora and DIRAC).

Microsoft is paying for the licenses.


Ok, I was unaware of that - I assumed that Novell was responsible for the CODEC licensing outside that of the CODECs owned by Microsoft themselves (WMV/WMA).

Microsoft are paying some third party to develop extensions to Eclipse for Silverlight development.

Novell will be adding support to MonoDevelop for Silverlight development (already started).


Cool - will this third party include the ability to encode videos into any of the CODECs supported by Moonlight or are we talking about the same crippled experience that Sun did to JavaFX developers on Solaris or the sad attempt by Adobe to create a Flash tool based upon Eclipse?

Edited 2009-08-18 13:29 UTC

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RE[3]: Comment by kaiwai
by Lobotomik on Tue 18th Aug 2009 16:41 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by kaiwai"
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are we talking about the same crippled experience that Sun did to JavaFX developers on Solaris or the sad attempt by Adobe to create a Flash tool based upon Eclipse?

You bet Microsoft's freebie Eclipse plugin will be vastly inferior to their Visual Studio tools, for a variety of reasons (including that Visual Studio is a really good and mature tool, whatever my dislike for Microsoft may be, and that it brings Microsoft lots of both money and control -- the latter much more importantly).

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RE[3]: Comment by kaiwai
by jstedfast on Tue 18th Aug 2009 17:10 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by kaiwai"
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2007-06-21

Cool - will this third party include the ability to encode videos into any of the CODECs supported by Moonlight or are we talking about the same crippled experience that Sun did to JavaFX developers on Solaris or the sad attempt by Adobe to create a Flash tool based upon Eclipse?


I'm not sure it will even contain media encoders. Visual Studio doesn't, so I wouldn't expect it from the Eclipse plugin that they are sponsoring the development of.

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RE[3]: Comment by kaiwai
by n4cer on Tue 18th Aug 2009 17:12 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by kaiwai"
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2005-07-06

Cool - will this third party include the ability to encode videos into any of the CODECs supported by Moonlight or are we talking about the same crippled experience that Sun did to JavaFX developers on Solaris or the sad attempt by Adobe to create a Flash tool based upon Eclipse?


The Eclipse Tools for Silverlight project is located here:
http://www.eclipse4sl.org/

You may also want to check out the Silverlight Toolkit:
http://silverlight.codeplex.com/

The eclipse4sl project seems code-focused currently, though there is an Advanced Media Features bulletpoint on their roadmap. You can use any tool that outputs video/audio in your desired format. For formats not native to Silverlight ( http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc189080(VS.95).aspx ), you'll need to build/utilize a third-party codec for it.

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