Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 19th Aug 2009 16:23 UTC, submitted by Moulinneuf
Mozilla & Gecko clones Remember the very detailed proposal Microsoft submitted to the European Commission not too long ago about the browser ballot? This was quite the detailed proposal, covering just about every possible aspect of such a ballot screen. Responses were positive from within the EC, but now it seems that according to the Mozilla Foundation, the proposal is not good enough.
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Comment by BluenoseJake
by BluenoseJake on Wed 19th Aug 2009 16:58 UTC
BluenoseJake
Member since:
2005-08-11

I guess the time has come to give Chrome a try, as this kind of foolishness is really starting to annoy me.

I certainly agree with Thom, no app I install should be removing ANYTHING from my computer with out my express permission, and then more than likely, I would still deny it and do it myself.

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RE: Comment by BluenoseJake
by morris on Wed 19th Aug 2009 17:43 in reply to "Comment by BluenoseJake"
morris Member since:
2009-03-26

I guess the time has come to give Chrome a try, as this kind of foolishness is really starting to annoy me.

I certainly agree with Thom, no app I install should be removing ANYTHING from my computer with out my express permission, and then more than likely, I would still deny it and do it myself.


No, you are wrong! This is anti-monopoly, which means, no IE by default. If you installed IE by yourself, you are not using Windows anyway.

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BluenoseJake Member since:
2005-08-11

What? It's not about Monopoly, It's about control of my machine, and I won't have Mozilla or the EU (I live in Canada) controlling what I have installed on my computer, regardless who wrote the OS.

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RE: Comment by BluenoseJake
by wumip on Thu 20th Aug 2009 19:38 in reply to "Comment by BluenoseJake"
wumip Member since:
2009-08-20

I guess the time has come to give Chrome a try, as this kind of foolishness is really starting to annoy me.

Sorry to disappoint you, but if you are going to boycott Firefox over antitrust stuff you'll have to boycott Chrome as well:

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2007/06/google-launches-ant...

And you'll have to ditch Windows too:

http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/12/21/microsofts-arguments-again...

Will you practice what you preach? I wonder.

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BluenoseJake Member since:
2005-08-11

"I guess the time has come to give Chrome a try, as this kind of foolishness is really starting to annoy me.

Sorry to disappoint you, but if you are going to boycott Firefox over antitrust stuff you'll have to boycott Chrome as well:

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2007/06/google-launches-ant...

And you'll have to ditch Windows too:

http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/12/21/microsofts-arguments-again...

Will you practice what you preach? I wonder.
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I'm not annoyed with Mozilla because of Anti-trust, but because even though they just announced a billion downloads, and have been gaining marketshare steadily for years, they think they can still whine and moan like they are the underdogs.

Even Opera has more of a case than Mozilla for anti-trust violations.

I couldn't give a crap about desktop search, so your first argument is bogus. Googles desktop search is not their browser, nor their search engine. Oh, and that article is 2 years old, and they lost.

As far as Windows is concerned, I tend to use the best tool for the job, if that means Windows, then it's Windows, if that means Debian, then it's Debian, if it's FreeBSD, then it's FreeBSD. I need to have Windows around because of work, but I tend to use a lot of Debian at home. It's because I get to choose what I use, not Mozilla, not the EU and not anybody else.

That argument is also against 2 years old, and when it comes to online search and ads, Google is the monopoly and MS a distant 3rd.

A browser is just that a browser, there are 4 or 5 choices to decide between, and I'll pick the one that annoys me the least. Trying to compare the choice between a browser and an OS is just a weak argument. Sometimes the choice is clear, especially when deploying desktops at work, or building one for a family member. Sometimes you have many criteria and then you get to decide.

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