Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 19th Aug 2009 16:23 UTC, submitted by Moulinneuf
Mozilla & Gecko clones Remember the very detailed proposal Microsoft submitted to the European Commission not too long ago about the browser ballot? This was quite the detailed proposal, covering just about every possible aspect of such a ballot screen. Responses were positive from within the EC, but now it seems that according to the Mozilla Foundation, the proposal is not good enough.
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MollyC
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2006-07-04

Ship Windows to Europe with no browser. Let the OEMs deal with providing a browser. I've seen nothing in EU law that would make that illegal, beyond the fact that antitrust law in the EU is the EC's whim. But saying that it's unacceptable for Windows to ship without a browser may go too far for even the EU appeals court. It normally rubberstamps the arbitrary dictates of the EC, but where's the legal foundation to say that it's unacceptable for Windows to ship without a browser? I don't think there's any legal foundation at all. But if Microsoft went with the original scheme, the EC would fine them for about 1.5 billion dollars, then Microsoft would have to roll the dice with the EU appeals court, which normally rubberstamps the EC's rulings, no matter how absurd they are. So chances are that Microsoft would ultimately have to provide a ballot anyway, but having to also pay 1.5 billion dollars in fines.

So instead of having the simple, clean, and legal (IMO) solution of shipping Windows with no browser, we have a convoluted ballot mechanism, with multiple browser makers now trying to game the system to make the ballot more in their favor. This is beyond stupid.

Edited 2009-08-19 18:29 UTC

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wumip Member since:
2009-08-20

I've seen nothing in EU law that would make that illegal, beyond the fact that antitrust law in the EU is the EC's whim.

The law is not the EC's whim. The EC ENFORCES the law. Please educate yourself.

where's the legal foundation to say that it's unacceptable for Windows to ship without a browser?

That is not the question here. The question is if removing IE would be sufficient to restore competitionin the market. It wouldn't.

This is beyond stupid.

Only to those who lack an even basic understanding of the issue.

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