Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 20th Aug 2009 17:25 UTC
SuSE, openSUSE On August 4 we discussed the possibility of openSUSE defaulting to KDE during the installation routine. This was raised as a feature request within the openSUSE community, and quickly gained the favour of many, become the most popular request. The openSUSE board and variousother leader within the project have discussed the issue, and have decided that yes, from now on, openSUSE will default to KDE during the installation process.
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RE: Somewhat odd ?
by bralkein on Thu 20th Aug 2009 20:14 UTC in reply to "Somewhat odd ?"
bralkein
Member since:
2006-12-20

<cynicism>Well it would totally scupper their whole openFATE initiative and destroy the nice "community" image of OpenSuse if they just ignored the request, wouldn't it! </cynicism>

It is an interesting choice though, seeing as this creates really quite a divergence between OpenSuse and Novell's enterprise Linux offerings, which (IIRC) are solely GNOME-based. At the time of their decision to go with GNOME, Qt was still GPL or paid proprietary, so GTK/GNOME made an awful lot of sense. Qt would actually be a very viable choice these days, but I doubt they're about to change over, since they're quite heavily invested in GTK now I'd imagine. So I can't imagine that's the reason behind their choice.

Still. really this is great news for me as a KDE fan and I think for the power of end users everywhere. Nice one Novell! ;)

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RE[2]: Somewhat odd ?
by KugelKurt on Thu 20th Aug 2009 20:34 in reply to "RE: Somewhat odd ?"
KugelKurt Member since:
2005-07-06

Novell bought Ximian first and made the Ximian bosses the new bosses of Novell's new Linux division.
Only later SUSE was bought.

If Novell had bought SUSE first, the Linux product lineup would be very different. I'm sure.

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RE[3]: Somewhat odd ?
by bralkein on Thu 20th Aug 2009 20:47 in reply to "RE[2]: Somewhat odd ?"
bralkein Member since:
2006-12-20

No, I don't think so. I am a big fan of KDE, but if I were selling a Linux distro I would want to make it a nice target for proprietary developers. Having Qt with the GPL/paid licences made this realistically impossible, because how could you justify sending people elsewhere to get a development licence for your platform, for which they would also have to pay £££? No way.

Having a bunch of GNOME developers on board probably helped make the decision a lot easier, but I really don't think KDE stood a chance there with that old Qt licencing issue.

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RE[2]: Somewhat odd ?
by Bille on Fri 21st Aug 2009 06:39 in reply to "RE: Somewhat odd ?"
Bille Member since:
2007-05-31

It is an interesting choice though, seeing as this creates really quite a divergence between OpenSuse and Novell's enterprise Linux offerings, which (IIRC) are solely GNOME-based.


SLED defaults to GNOME and there isn't a "desktop selection" page in the installer, but the KDE desktop and apps can be selected as well as or instead of GNOME in the installer's detailed software selection, or post-installation of course. This isn't publicised for complex reasons, but SLE customers tend to know what they are paying for and how to set it up. And Novell provides the same level of enterprise support for KDE.


Still. really this is great news for me as a KDE fan and I think for the power of end users everywhere. Nice one Novell! ;)

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RE[3]: Somewhat odd ?
by KugelKurt on Fri 21st Aug 2009 15:46 in reply to "RE[2]: Somewhat odd ?"
KugelKurt Member since:
2005-07-06

Novell provides the same level of enterprise support for KDE.

Last time I checked, Novell had no interest in improving Kontact at all and groupware is pretty crucial for the enterprise. For example: OpenChange integration for Evolution is pushed, but not for Kontact.
In fact, the full Akonadi port of Kontact is delayed over and over again, because almost nobody is contributing. Now 4.5 is the goal...
What happened about the plan to port Evolution to Akonadi, anyway? Why isn't Novell pursuing that? That way redundancy is fought by using a unified back-end and Evolution and Kontact would benefit equally from new Akonadi resources.

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