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RE[2]: Intel
by cjcox on Fri 21st Aug 2009 20:47 UTC in reply to "RE: Intel"
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You really want to compare a high end Pentium-M at 2Ghz to the Atom at 1.3Ghz? My point is that the Wal*Mart buyer of 4-5 years ago was buying 1.4Ghz Pentium-M's... so, let's see a comparison with the lower end Pentium M and the Atom N270 (the N270 1.6Ghz being typical for netbooks now).

So... I'll stand by my remark about performance. I currently do not have access to a netbook, but if I get another one, I'll bench it myself against a 1.6Ghz P-M that I have... at least that will be somewhat close.

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RE[3]: Intel
by cjcox on Fri 21st Aug 2009 20:52 in reply to "RE[2]: Intel"
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Oh... and one more thing. I saw NO issue with web video playback peformance and no problems using the GMA 950 with DVD resolution (480p) video. Again, that was using a N270 on a near 1st generation Aspire One A110 netbook (considered to be a lower end nb with the N270).

With that said, I have friends that say the netbooks with the broadcom wireless do give them issues.

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RE[4]: Intel
by cjcox on Fri 21st Aug 2009 21:17 in reply to "RE[3]: Intel"
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Better comparison, but again, not with the N270, uses the Z530, but still (N270 will do a bit better than the Z530):

http://www.anandtech.com/systems/showdoc.aspx?i=3321&p=6

They're results seem to indicate the Z530 fits between an 800Mhz and 1.2Ghz P-M. Since the N270 is slightly better than the Z530 on performance, I still feel pretty comfortable with the 1.4Ghz P-M compare. Regardless, just the fact that it gets close is enough IMHO.

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RE[3]: Intel
by jibadeeha on Fri 21st Aug 2009 21:18 in reply to "RE[2]: Intel"
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2009-08-10

You really want to compare a high end Pentium-M at 2Ghz to the Atom at 1.3Ghz? My point is that the Wal*Mart buyer of 4-5 years ago was buying 1.4Ghz Pentium-M's... so, let's see a comparison with the lower end Pentium M and the Atom N270 (the N270 1.6Ghz being typical for netbooks now).

So... I'll stand by my remark about performance. I currently do not have access to a netbook, but if I get another one, I'll bench it myself against a 1.6Ghz P-M that I have... at least that will be somewhat close.


I can safely say that my old Pentium M (1.4GHz) performs noticeably faster than my Atom N270 (1.6GHz) in my Eee PC 901. I still prefer my 901 though ;)

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RE[4]: Intel
by bnolsen on Sun 23rd Aug 2009 12:31 in reply to "RE[3]: Intel"
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I have an compaq evo n410c with a 1.2 P-M.
I also have 2 of the original aspire ones.

I have to lock the compaq at 800MHz because of the massive heat this thing generates...it overheats and shuts down while playing hulu. And the fan tends to run irritatingly high.

The atoms on the other hand only just get somewhat warm doing the same things.

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RE[3]: Intel
by npcomplete on Fri 21st Aug 2009 22:43 in reply to "RE[2]: Intel"
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So... I'll stand by my remark about performance. I currently do not have access to a netbook, but if I get another one, I'll bench it myself against a 1.6Ghz P-M that I have... at least that will be somewhat close.


You had compared it with a "low-end" P-M, so I gave you an example of what you can get in a cheap laptop.

But I'm not sure how you can still say that ("it's close to a Pentium-M") when the Anandtech link you provided
http://www.anandtech.com/systems/showdoc.aspx?i=3321&p=6
showed otherwise even at the same clock speed. I also happen to have a Pentium-M at 1.6Ghz and I'm confident that when you do bench yours against an Atom, it'll come out quite ahead, again just like Anandtech's benchmarks.

As far as the types of videos Atoms have trouble with, basically most h.264 at higher than SD resolution, and some high bitrate MPEG4 based codecs like Divx / Xvid / WMV9 / MP4. But it can still have issues with some h.264 even at SD, depending on how they are encoded, and more so if they contain software rendered subtitles. Playing said types of video through Flash ala Youtube ("HQ" mode + CC for subtitles), Hulu, and Vimeo exacerbates the issue even more, especially when played back at full screen.

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