Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 20th Aug 2009 17:25 UTC
SuSE, openSUSE On August 4 we discussed the possibility of openSUSE defaulting to KDE during the installation routine. This was raised as a feature request within the openSUSE community, and quickly gained the favour of many, become the most popular request. The openSUSE board and variousother leader within the project have discussed the issue, and have decided that yes, from now on, openSUSE will default to KDE during the installation process.
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RE[4]: Somewhat odd ?
by segedunum on Fri 21st Aug 2009 23:36 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Somewhat odd ?"
segedunum
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Last time I checked, Novell had no interest in improving Kontact at all and groupware is pretty crucial for the enterprise.

Given how Groupwise usage has severely declined over the years it really doesn't matter who supports it these days sadly. Novell can barely get Outlook to be a stable client for it nevermind Evolution, whose stability seems to have got steadily worse over the years. Years ago it was a decent e-mail client but the addition of groupware seems to have knocked it out of kilter.

What happened about the plan to port Evolution to Akonadi, anyway? Why isn't Novell pursuing that? That way redundancy is fought by using a unified back-end and Evolution and Kontact would benefit equally from new Akonadi resources.

Well that would seem to be the sensible option for all. If it's one thing the open source desktop needs it is to just stop stupidly duplicating effort when it comes to groupworking off-shoots. Less effort will be required and stability and credibility amongst people that it will actually work will get better.

I would have thought this would have been of some use to Novell because, if anything, Evolution development itself has slowed dramatically from them over the years with a number of layoffs. Mind you, common sense technical decisions have never been Novell's strong point.

Edited 2009-08-21 23:43 UTC

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RE[5]: Somewhat odd ?
by Bille on Sat 22nd Aug 2009 06:18 in reply to "RE[4]: Somewhat odd ?"
Bille Member since:
2007-05-31

"Last time I checked, Novell had no interest in improving Kontact at all and groupware is pretty crucial for the enterprise.

Given how Groupwise usage has severely declined over the years it really doesn't matter who supports it these days sadly. Novell can barely get Outlook to be a stable client for it nevermind Evolution, whose stability seems to have got steadily worse over the years. Years ago it was a decent e-mail client but the addition of groupware seems to have knocked it out of kilter.
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I do what maintenance I can for Kontact (and Groupwise) on SLE and openSUSE but it's no longer my only responsibility and as segedunum says, doesn't come close to being a top priority. Upstream KDE does a great job maintaining Kontact and I mainly just package that.

With the new everyone-can-be-a-maintainer policy at openSUSE, I'm trying to gather and educate interested and capable community members to look after areas like KDEPIM in more detail than I can afford.

"What happened about the plan to port Evolution to Akonadi, anyway? Why isn't Novell pursuing that? That way redundancy is fought by using a unified back-end and Evolution and Kontact would benefit equally from new Akonadi resources.
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There's never been an in-house plan to do that. I keep suggesting it. As a first step we wanted Akonadi hosted at freedesktop.org, but shenanigans occurred, trying to keep Akonadi marginalised as 'just a KDE project'.

There are upstream plans to write native glib client libraries and then reimplement the libebook, etc libraries Evolution uses to talk to e-d-s using them, but it's been slow going - it was proposed for GSoC 2009 but wasn't taken up.

Well that would seem to be the sensible option for all. If it's one thing the open source desktop needs it is to just stop stupidly duplicating effort when it comes to groupworking off-shoots. Less effort will be required and stability and credibility amongst people that it will actually work will get better.


You'd think wouldn't you? Horse, water - drink. I'll keep pushing it as KDE's use of Akonadi gets closer to production quality.

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