On August 4 we discussed the possibility of openSUSE defaulting to KDE during the installation routine. This was raised as a feature request within the openSUSE community, and quickly gained the favour of many, become the most popular request. The openSUSE board and variousother leader within the project have discussed the issue, and have decided that yes, from now on, openSUSE will default to KDE during the installation process.
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Member since:2005-07-06
So you provide no arguments at all. I actually use openSUSE with KDE 4.3 and GNOME 2.26 installed. I see no problems with both.
I also use (K)Ubuntu with KDE and GNOME. Except the butt-ugly default theme (= negligible cosmetical issues) and not using Slab, both GNOME versions are pretty much the same.
KDE under (K)Ubuntu looks like this: http://www.flickr.com/photos/19616885@N00/sets/72157608562200171/
openSUSE's KDE does not have any of those issues at all. openSUSE's Build Service packages the latest KDE packages every few days.
No need for personal attacks against me. Is this the only way you can try to cover up your complete lack of proof for your claims?
Member since:2005-07-07
So you provide no arguments at all. I actually use openSUSE with KDE 4.3 and GNOME 2.26 installed. I see no problems with both.
ok, you want proof? Try being a bit more avid gnome user like me. Suse has way too many repositories (and many incompatible) as gnome software is concerned. If you need some piece of software which doesn't reside in base repository there are great odds that some repository will try to change way too many libs. Many of the packages are not built with exact version (but should be) and so it replaces whole load of libraries. Which can lead to either unworking software or complete desktop collapse. I suffered 3 smaller errors exactly (nothing what few hours couldn't fix) the same way. And one larger where my only chance to repair was upgrading distro to 11.1. That was in one year. I didn't suffer one error like that in fedora
This doesn't happen on fedora or ubuntu. But suse having too decentralized gnome package repositories... it leads to whole load of trouble. Gnome packaging on suse is so decentralized that I can calmly call it worst gnome packaging ever.
Besides the fact that you talk about completely different topic than me. You talk about initial look and feel, I talk about maintenance. (p.s. can't talk about kde on fedora, I don't use it, but I really like (K)Ubuntu separation... different maintainers, different focus)
openSUSE's KDE does not have any of those issues at all. openSUSE's Build Service packages the latest KDE packages every few days.
it is not about the last, it is all about polished. Suse was wunderkind for kde distros. The way they polished complete setup was simply brilliant. Now it is just ordinary nothing special out of the svn. I'm not kde user my self so I can't talk about packaging of kde in suse nowadays.
And this always happens when distro starts losing its focus. Hopefully with this move they will be what they were in 90's. Best kde distro ever
No need for personal attacks against me. Is this the only way you can try to cover up your complete lack of proof for your claims?
??? Personal attack? lol, you seem to misunderstood, in your first answer you acted like I stepped on your favorite hamster. You answered almost religiously... please read your answer and try to connect who attacked who,
Edited 2009-08-24 12:06 UTC
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2005-07-07
WTF? openSUSE is one of the best KDE distros. GNOME support is also top-notch. The only difference compared to most other GNOME distributions is the Slab menu, which can be reverted to the original with a few clicks. "
gnome support is sucky at best (simply not robust and it can break very easily). while kde support has fallen lengths beyond what it used to be.
you misunderstood my point, packages and support suffers when gnome is used and kde is way off to be polished as it used to be in suse.
and don't get religious... Suse is still a great distro, I just think they can't follow two desktops and still be 100% polished as they were in kde times (no distro can, this is why they pick their main desktop). And since majority of suse users are kde users... well, here is the reason why they would only benefit from this move