Linked by David Adams on Mon 24th Aug 2009 09:21 UTC
Linux A reader asks: Why is Linux still not as user friendly as the two other main OSes with all the people developing for Linux? Is it because it is mainly developed by geeks? My initial feeling when reading this question was that it was kind of a throwaway, kind of a slam in disguise as a genuine question. But the more I thought about it, the more intrigued I felt. There truly are a large amount of resources being dedicated to the development of Linux and its operating system halo (DEs, drivers, apps, etc). Some of these resources are from large companies (IBM, Red Hat, Novell). Why isn't Linux more user-friendly? Is this an inherent limitation with open source software?
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Best chance for sane *nix GUI: Chrome OS
by mlankton on Mon 24th Aug 2009 12:25 UTC
mlankton
Member since:
2009-06-11

I have always thought that X was the biggest problem with the *nix desktop. If Chrome OS really is ditching X for a proprietary windowing system, it could be the best thing that ever happened to linux.

As far as X desktop environments go, some of them are ok, but none of them are inspired. Whether you like OS X or not, it is the best GUI for both novice and expert users. It doesn't get in your way, and if you need something, it's there.

People fall back to the Windows model, because that is what the majority of users are used to. That's why we have lackluster desktops from Gnome and KDE.

Every time someone creates a really good GUI, it's because they broke the mold and tried new ideas. Amiga, NeXT, Be.....all have big followings to this day, because they were great. We haven't had a great X desktop yet. Hopefully Google gets it right, because if they do, Chrome OS could be a legitimate third alternative to Windows on the mainstream desktop.

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sorpigal Member since:
2005-11-02

I fail to see what X has to do with user-friendliness. If I replaced X with a framebuffer what exactly do I gain that a user will care for?

You seem to think that X dictates something about how apps that happen to use it for a graphics layer look, feel, work, or something. This assumption is at best a mistake and at worst vile propaganda.

If you come back with "3D effects and compositing" or anything related to that I am going to simply hand you a dunce cap and point to the corner. So, don't.

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mlankton Member since:
2009-06-11

First of all, X is a hot mess. It's 20+ years of trying to be everything to everybody, and as a result has way too much code in it for a windowing system. Don't go on a tirade about how X is not just a windowing system, I know what X is.

A core group of developers starting with a clean slate can come up with something much, much better than X.org. It will be much smaller, much more focused, much more defined by that small group of coders, and will integrate with the host os much, much better than X ever could.

Second, guys like you need to get out of your parent's basement more often. You take this stuff way too seriously. Really? You get that upset because I made a disparaging remark about your beloved X.org? Do some homework and give me some solid reasons why that aged, fat dinosaur is preferable to a clean, new design. If you're so worried about your desktop eyecandy don't be. Apparently it isn't that tough. Amiga OS 4 and MorphOS integrate that crap into more cohesive GUIs than anything X provides, that are also much smaller libraries of code and have a much smaller impact on system resources in the host system.

Loosen your underwear and get a life.

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