Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 26th Aug 2009 22:23 UTC
GNU, GPL, Open Source When Windows Vista was launched, the Free Software Foundation started its BadVista campaign, which was aimed at informing users about what the FSF considered user-restrictive features in Vista. Luckily for the FSF, Vista didn't really need a bad-mouthing campaign to fail. Now that Windows 7 is receiving a lot of positive press, the FSF dusted off the BadVista drum, and gave it a fresh coat of paint.
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RE[4]: Agreed
by sbergman27 on Thu 27th Aug 2009 03:41 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Agreed"
sbergman27
Member since:
2005-07-24

Other than some well publicized, and rather old, attacks like Balmer's "cancer" quote, MS doesn't seem to do a whole lot of that publicly. Certainly not as much as certain members of the FS community do it to MS. And that really does put us in a bad light. Attacking our opponents just makes our own offerings look weak, and calls into question our motives. Best that everyone stick to promoting our own stuff, even if the other guy does attack us from time to time. People recognize when you are taking the high road. And they recognize mudslinging when they see it, too.

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v RE[5]: Agreed
by Moulinneuf on Thu 27th Aug 2009 04:08 in reply to "RE[4]: Agreed"
RE[6]: Agreed
by ralish on Thu 27th Aug 2009 05:34 in reply to "RE[5]: Agreed"
ralish Member since:
2009-05-13

Your entire post reeks of unsubstantiated assertions, but RE your first link, what exactly does that prove? That companies have a habit of marketting their software and may actually stretch the truth or exaggerate the hard realities of the software? You'll note that Firefox has similar pages hosted promoting its product with some questionable assertions now and in the past, and I suspect the same is true of Opera and probably Chrome.

It seems to me that the FOSS community has a (probably) small but vocal minority that has nothing less than a fanatical obsession with all things Microsoft and how they can criticise their offerings and them as a company. And sure, some of this criticism is entirely legitimate, but when it becomes a point that defines you, then you really do need to, bluntly, get a life. Hell, Linus himself recently labelled Microsoft hatred as a "disease".

It's then compounded when the same people tend to take the view that FOSS can do no wrong and the entire computer software ecosystem can be clearly divided across a giant fault line, commonly defined by licensing and abstract concepts of freedom and privacy, almost always misunderstood or characterised.

I use Linux regularly, and I used to use it as my primary OS, but I got tired of it, and one the reasons is the social dynamic that is a part of elements of the community. This lunatic obsession with Microsoft is just grinding, and as someone who uses Microsoft software as well, you just get sick of it.

Put simply, if your product truly is superior, you shouldn't need to be on a constant offensive delivering a barrage of ad hominem attacks, addressing everything and everyone except yourself and the merits of your own work.

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RE[5]: Agreed
by gustl on Thu 27th Aug 2009 13:21 in reply to "RE[4]: Agreed"
gustl Member since:
2006-01-19

Other than some well publicized, and rather old, attacks like Balmer's "cancer" quote, MS doesn't seem to do a whole lot of that publicly.


No, Microsoft is instead reverting to their old ways of forcing completely closed stuff onto us by getting the industry to accept it as "standard".

I just say exFAT.

Will the industry ever learn?

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RE[6]: Agreed
by darknexus on Thu 27th Aug 2009 13:34 in reply to "RE[5]: Agreed"
darknexus Member since:
2008-07-15

Will the industry ever learn?


Probably not, especially given how much money Microsoft has to throw around to get their "standards" approved. Face it, if the industry hasn't learned by now, it never will.

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