Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 27th Aug 2009 13:07 UTC
Mac OS X We're certainly not done yet with Snow Leopard on OSNews! The operating system will be officially released tomorrow, but that hasn't stopped various news outlets from cranking out reviews of Apple's latest big cat. As usual, the reviews are fairly consistent: this latest release is the best yet. In addition, very welcome news for Tiger users: the Snow Leopard "upgrade" disk can upgrade Tiger installations too, and performs no checks to see if Leopard is installed.
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RE[3]: Comment by me
by Gryzor on Thu 27th Aug 2009 19:03 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by me"
Gryzor
Member since:
2005-07-03

I read the thread and I found your suggestions interesting and would love to see those, but none other OS X user I've met decided that OS X was so bad they needed to use either Windows 98 or Ubuntu to "get things done". You only have a 6-month OS X experience, that means you have yet to explore the whole OS experience. I took me more than two years to fully unleash it.

I don't know what "work you can't get done" under OSX, I have never seen an OS less intrusive. I have a small company, I code under Windows XP/Vista/7 using Visual Studio. I maintain three linux servers and use a Mac Pro for daily work (VMWare/Parallels for windows work). I haven't felt the reason to move back to Windows 98 (?) nor Linux.

Again, I think you have too much previous OS experience and don't want to relearn what your new OS offers you. OS X is not for everyone, but I come from a Windows world and I found a way to discover OS X (I started in Jaguar go figure). I lived thorough horrible Samba support, PPC, slow finder hangs, etc., however, the whole OS X experience has been superior to anything Windows ever offered me.

Go back to windows 98, and make sure you use 98SE, else you won't be able to use your USB devices.
Skip Windows Millenium, it had lots of bugs.

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RE[4]: Comment by me
by pandronic on Thu 27th Aug 2009 19:57 in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by me"
pandronic Member since:
2006-05-18

Well, yes, I have tons of Windows experience and it's true that I expect certain things done a certain way, but what I don't understand is why can't Apple provide more options in their software, so that converts like myself can tweak the OS and the apps to their liking without resorting to ugly hacks or 3rd party apps that kind of work.

Probably, if I've had 15 yrs experience in Macs as I do in non Apple PCs, I would have found the Windows and Linux way weird. But since 90% of the people grew up with Windows I don't think it's unreasonable to accommodate users that can't fully embrace the Mac way.

But ... if most shortcomings I've found in Mac OS X can be debated, Finder sucks big time and there's no amount of speeding up that can change that.

What I find most disappointing is that until now I thought that Apple were just too lazy to update Finder, but since they bothered to rewrite it I came to realize the sad fact that they thought it was OK.

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RE[5]: Comment by me
by MysterMask on Thu 27th Aug 2009 21:06 in reply to "RE[4]: Comment by me"
MysterMask Member since:
2005-07-12

but since they bothered to rewrite it I came to realize the sad fact that they thought it was OK.


It is OK. And I would be very sad if those ugly Windows Explorer annoyances pop up on OS X just to make some switchers happy: E. g.
- ENTER to rename is way better than F2 (Why the hell F2? What's the logic?)
- I don't like to use F5 all the time (again, this shouldn't be necessary at all)
- I don't want that duplicated files are added - out of order - at the bottom of an alphabetically ordered list till you make some actions that restores the order (totally annoying)
- Finders naming behaviour for multiple copies or aliases is way better
- CMD+ARROW DOWN to open a file is a consisten behaviour - it also opens folders and is easy to learn together with all the other CMD + ARROW shortcuts
- I don't like the silly UP behavior of Explorer, that sometimes goes to the parent folder - but somtimes not
- I do like a trash that behaves like a trash no matter if you use a lokal or a server file system (a bug that should have been squashed in Windows a long time ago!)
- I do like when Finder tells me that a file is to large to copy to a destination before it starts
- I do like that Finder is always able to put a file into the trash even if it is locked by a process - unlike Windows, you don't have to search for the process that lockes the file to put it on the hit list to nirvana
- I absolutly don't like Explorers "merge" behaviour when copying/pasting folders (you never know what will be merged in deeper levels of that folder hierarchy and it get's really ugly, if the copy job suddenly stops because it hits a locked file or a disk full or ..)
- ..

Agreed that it would be nice to have some additional features in Finder like compressed archive browsing or a decent built-in FTP client. But frankly, I don't miss that very often. There are good tools which are - thanks to spotlight - only a few keystrokes away. However I miss Finder when having to work with Windows Explorer ..

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