Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 28th Aug 2009 22:05 UTC
Legal The week isn't even over yet, and we already have another instalment in the Apple-Psystar soap opera. Psystar has filed a new lawsuit in the Florida Southern District Court in Miami, asking for an injunction and damages because of Apple's "anticompetitive attempts to tie Mac OS X Snow Leopard to its Macintosh line of computers".
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RE[2]: Psystar is right
by FredFlintStone on Sat 29th Aug 2009 01:28 UTC in reply to "RE: Psystar is right"
FredFlintStone
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2009-08-29

Your analogy is also flawed.
Xbox and PS3 dont sell the Operating system separate from the hardware as an upgrade. Snow Leapord is sold as a separate upgrate.
The Xbox and PS3 upgrades are free and directly pushed to the device and not available over the shelf

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RE[3]: Psystar is right
by apoclypse on Sat 29th Aug 2009 02:04 in reply to "RE[2]: Psystar is right"
apoclypse Member since:
2007-02-17

Its kind of flawed. A more apt analogy would be an OEM install of Windows. You can only install that particular version of Windows on the targeted machine. Some OEM discs even check to see if they are in fact running on the right hardware. Apple does, but they also don't include OEM discs with their machines (well they kind of do) the operating system install disc is the OEM disc. Unlike MS they do not limit the installer to any specific machine and choose to do that via the EULA instead of any DRM measures. Which is commendable, imo, and I don't think that any company that chooses to not hit their customers with drm should be penalized by opportunist who don't contribute a single red cent back to the company they are building their bank on.

At this point I'd rather see Psystar go away. They are leeches on the hackintosh community and are a shining example of why Apple users are Apple users.

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RE[4]: Psystar is right
by FredFlintStone on Sat 29th Aug 2009 02:54 in reply to "RE[3]: Psystar is right"
FredFlintStone Member since:
2009-08-29

Again with Microsoft's OEM copies its not restricted to a single OEM and the OEM copies are not available over the shelf for sale. Which is why apple actions might be considered as anti- compete. If apple would have given snow leapord as a free upgrade to Leapord this case would have been thrown out in a minute. But its selling it as a separate product.

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RE[3]: Psystar is right
by kaiwai on Sat 29th Aug 2009 06:23 in reply to "RE[2]: Psystar is right"
kaiwai Member since:
2005-07-06

Your analogy is also flawed.
Xbox and PS3 dont sell the Operating system separate from the hardware as an upgrade. Snow Leapord is sold as a separate upgrate.
The Xbox and PS3 upgrades are free and directly pushed to the device and not available over the shelf


So hang on, using that logic - if Apple included as part of purchasing an Apple computer that end users could get free operating system upgrades through the internet that it would some how be ok? How about this scenario, replace Apple with 'Vendor Y' and' Vendor Y' deciding to sell a firmware upgrade to customers through retail channels on a CD because it contains a whole host of improvements and is too large to 'send down an internet connection'.

You're splitting hairs over distribution - it means nothing in the end; whether it arrives electronically or via a download, free or purchased - something that is 'free' doesn't some how say, "well, you can restrict the user in anyway' but if acquired through a retail chain they can't impose the same restrictions? you're either consistently applying the principle to software upgrades both paid and free or you don't.

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RE[3]: Psystar is right
by Vargol on Sat 29th Aug 2009 09:34 in reply to "RE[2]: Psystar is right"
Vargol Member since:
2006-02-28

http://www.us.playstation.com/Support/SystemUpdates/PS3/PC_Update.h...

I'd call that direct of the shelf...

Edited 2009-08-29 09:35 UTC

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