The next version of Fedora, Fedora 12, will integrate a Moblin Desktop Environment. It can be easily "groupinstalled" via the yum package manager. The environment has already been added to the Constantine alpha release of Fedora 12 and to Fedora's "Rawhide" development branch. They're seeking testers to "make it great" for the final release of Fedora 12, which will be released in early November.
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Member since:2005-06-30
Bump for freaking truth.
I used to distro hop every few weeks, but since F11 came out, I've been absolutely impressed with the quality of product that Fedora puts out. This is hands down, the best OS I've used on my T61...and that includes the XP that it came with. I've changed desktop environments and software from LXDE to KDE to Gnome and back to Xfce in that time without breaking anything. The package management system is the best I've seen...DeltaRPMs make updating a breeze by only downloading the difference between what has changed and thus reducing download size. The only thing I have to worry about is manually recompiling the VirtualBox kernel module whenever it or the kernel is updated. I don't know what to say, maybe it's a Thinkpad thing, but this system is rock solid. Sorry that I had to go offtopic, but I just wanted to add my case to the "Fedora is not broken" camp.
Member since:2005-07-24
Just wait until your next upgrade. You'll see. A couple months using one release on one machine is hardly grounds for claiming your experience to be "truth". F11 worked for you on your T61. That's exactly all that means.
And you can only put off the day of reckoning for 13 months from the day of release (10 months from now) because they drop your support like a hot potato 13 months from release. Talk about an upgrade treadmill! That's another thing we got fed up with regarding Fedora. Once we *did* finally get the breakage worked around on our machines after an upgrade... we couldn't stick with that installation very long. And so the whole nightmare would begin again.
Edit: Of course, the above assumes that one or more of the torrent of updates flooding out of the Fedora update fire hose doesn't get you first.
Edited 2009-09-01 01:42 UTC
Member since:2005-07-06
"The only thing I have to worry about is manually recompiling the VirtualBox kernel module whenever it or the kernel is updated."
You don't need to do that, unless you need the non-open source edition of VirtualBox for some of its features. If the features of the open source edition are OK for you, you can get it packaged from RPM Fusion, where the kmod/akmod system will take care of the kernel modules.
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2005-06-29
I have been a long-time Debian stable and Slackware user (10 years or so) and I definitely value stability over bleeding edge. I remember trying Fedora Core in its early days and having a terrible time with stability.
However, in the past year, I decided to devote one of my laptops (Thinkpad x61s) to Fedora, starting with F10. I have been very pleasantly surprised at both F10 and F11. The installs have been flawless, the repos have met all my needs, and the stability has been there. Yum with yum-fastestmirror and yum-presto easily matches apt in transaction time, and yum's clean and informative output exceeds the garbage apt spews out.
Overall, Fedora has definitely improved its overall experience, and I find myself quite enjoying my time with my Fedora laptop. I still love and use Debian and Slackware (and probably always will) but Fedora has really impressed me.