Linked by Jordan Spencer Cunningham on Mon 31st Aug 2009 21:14 UTC, submitted by Henry
The next version of Fedora, Fedora 12, will integrate a Moblin Desktop Environment. It can be easily "groupinstalled" via the yum package manager. The environment has already been added to the Constantine alpha release of Fedora 12 and to Fedora's "Rawhide" development branch. They're seeking testers to "make it great" for the final release of Fedora 12, which will be released in early November.
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"Just wait until your next upgrade. You'll see. A couple months using one release on one machine is hardly grounds for claiming your experience to be "truth". F11 worked for you on your T61. That's exactly all that means."
So...your subjective experience on your hardware is truth, someone else's subjective experience on their hardware isn't?
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So...your subjective experience on your hardware is truth, someone else's subjective experience on their hardware isn't?
My "subjective" experience covers 6 years of Fedora use on about 80 machines in 4 cities in 3 states in a business environment where things have to work, and stay working. As the sole admin, changing distros is not something I do lightly in that environment. But in retrospect, dumping Fedora was a very good decision. And my trouble log confirms it.
So yes, I would weight my experience more heavily than that that of someone for whom F11 happens to have worked with his T61 for a couple of months.
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Just wait until your next upgrade. You'll see....And you can only put off the day of reckoning for 13 months from the day of release (10 months from now) because they drop your support like a hot potato 13 months from release. Talk about an upgrade treadmill!
Hmmmmmm, and you think you've solved that 'upgrade treadmill' by moving to another distribution? They *all* have that problem sunshine except if you use a source based distribution like Gentoo where you can largely get around binary compatibility problems and upgrading or reinstalling 'as a whole', but that brings problems in itself. Most people just install their new distribution, and they can largely get around the pain of doing so by having a separate /home partition.
The notion that you can do in-place upgrades with impunity with any distribution apart from Fedora is just plain stupid.
Once we *did* finally get the breakage worked around on our machines after an upgrade... we couldn't stick with that installation very long. And so the whole nightmare would begin again.
Specific known examples? For any one that you come up with anyone will almost certainly be able to point you to breakages in any distribution.
Of course, the above assumes that one or more of the torrent of updates flooding out of the Fedora update fire hose doesn't get you first.
Without examples and a rational comparison between different distributions then this is meaningless I'm afraid.
Edited 2009-09-01 11:00 UTC
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Just wait until your next upgrade. You'll see. A couple months using one release on one machine is hardly grounds for claiming your experience to be "truth". F11 worked for you on your T61. That's exactly all that means.
And you can only put off the day of reckoning for 13 months from the day of release (10 months from now) because they drop your support like a hot potato 13 months from release. Talk about an upgrade treadmill! That's another thing we got fed up with regarding Fedora. Once we *did* finally get the breakage worked around on our machines after an upgrade... we couldn't stick with that installation very long. And so the whole nightmare would begin again.
Edit: Of course, the above assumes that one or more of the torrent of updates flooding out of the Fedora update fire hose doesn't get you first.
Edited 2009-09-01 01:42 UTC