Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 1st Sep 2009 15:31 UTC, submitted by KLU9
Opera Software After a long gestation period, Opera has released version 10 of their browser, which comes packed with a whole lot of improvements and new features. It's got a completely new interface, a turbo mode for those days of bandwith drought, automatic updates (finally!), and lots more.
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RE: Kroc
by Kroc on Tue 1st Sep 2009 20:47 UTC in reply to "Kroc"
Kroc
Member since:
2005-11-10

Why? If you expect me to be _unfair_, or unduly critical, then maybe yes; but as I see it, I am developing with cutting edge web standards and Opera simply doesn’t deliver. No HTML5 video/audio -- a *big* letdown as I don’t use Flash, and both Firefox and Safari already support it. No CSS3 rounded borders, gradients, animation or shadows. Pretty disappointing.

The skin is still awful in OS X. The only feature I can see that matters to web developers targeting Opera is that it has an auto-update feature so when it does get new CSS3 features, Opera users will actually be getting them.

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RE[2]: Kroc
by mtzmtulivu on Wed 2nd Sep 2009 00:51 in reply to "RE: Kroc"
mtzmtulivu Member since:
2006-11-14

big let down because it doesnt support html5 video/audio? ...can you give a link to where you or anybody else uses this functionality instead of flash?

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RE[3]: Kroc
by wakeupneo on Wed 2nd Sep 2009 02:01 in reply to "RE[2]: Kroc"
wakeupneo Member since:
2005-07-06

big let down because it doesnt support html5 video/audio? ...can you give a link to where you or anybody else uses this functionality instead of flash?


http://www.dailymotion.com

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RE[3]: Kroc
by mckill on Wed 2nd Sep 2009 03:47 in reply to "RE[2]: Kroc"
mckill Member since:
2007-06-12

big let down because it doesnt support html5 video/audio? ...can you give a link to where you or anybody else uses this functionality instead of flash?


thats not really the point. stuff won't move purely to html5 video until major browsers support it. so far firefox and webkit support it, you would think opera would start too also since they're in the mobil business and its impossible to play flash video on mobiles, h264 works because mobiles have dedicated hardware decoding.

regardless it doesn't matter what opera chooses to support, they don't really affect today's market.

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RE[2]: Kroc
by wanker90210 on Wed 2nd Sep 2009 07:57 in reply to "RE: Kroc"
wanker90210 Member since:
2007-10-26

I'm really not aiming to be rude here, but this complete lack of pragmatism makes me assume your web development has little or no commercial requirements?

Regardless of which, on behalf of all living in reality (like still having to support IE6 etc), a big thank you for pushing the web forward. Really.

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RE[3]: Kroc
by Kroc on Wed 2nd Sep 2009 09:33 in reply to "RE[2]: Kroc"
Kroc Member since:
2005-11-10

My commercial work is a different thing from my personal work. I push really hard at moving things along personally, so that when I sit down to write for others—IE6 included—these new features are available to me to use. Opera 10 doesn’t push the envelope IMO and therefore doesn’t inspire people to move the state of the art forward and bring legacy up to speed.

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RE[2]: Kroc
by slight on Wed 2nd Sep 2009 11:33 in reply to "RE: Kroc"
slight Member since:
2006-09-10

HTML5 isn't a standard yet.

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