Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 2nd Sep 2009 19:20 UTC
Law and Order Apple has responded to Psystar's new lawsuit today, stating that it is nothing but a stall tactic on Psystar's end. While I could just paraphrase whatever the filing reads, I decided to take this opportunity to address a number of sentiments and analogies often made in comment threads (not necessarily on OSNews).
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I hope Psystar wins ...
by JeffS on Wed 2nd Sep 2009 22:21 UTC
JeffS
Member since:
2005-07-12

... for the simple fact that EULAs are unconstitutional and directly contradictory to fair use rights.

Also, I want to see the end of "licensed" software, that is, if it is actually purchased in boxed form (or purchased and downloaded).

As far as I'm concerned, if you purchase something, it's yours, to use as you see fit, with no restrictions, period.

This whole licensing when purchasing is really a bait ans switch. Purchasing suggests ownership.

What proprietary software companies should do is migrate to a rental model. Renting does not suggest ownership, and comes with implied restrictions. And with renting, you know what you get.

But purchasing is ownership, with zero restrictions.

Plus, I'm really pretty anti Apple right now (even though I have an iPod, and considered purchasing an iBook). The whole iPhones exploding is the customers fault? C'mon! Do you think Boeing could get away with that? GM? The iPhone - the Ford Pinto of smart phones.

Thus, even if I were on Apple's side in the Psystar case (and I'm not), I'd want them to lose, just to see them get reamed.

Sorry, but I don't want to be anti-Apple. I want to like them.

But I'm always against huge companies that have serious ethics issues and that screw over their customers.

RE: I hope Psystar wins ...
by rhavyn on Wed 2nd Sep 2009 23:02 in reply to "I hope Psystar wins ..."
rhavyn Member since:
2005-07-06

... for the simple fact that EULAs are unconstitutional and directly contradictory to fair use rights.


Pray tell, how are EULAs unconstitutional? And you do realize that "fair use" is not actually a legislated principle and thus it is impossible to "directly contradict" it?

Also, I want to see the end of "licensed" software, that is, if it is actually purchased in boxed form (or purchased and downloaded).

As far as I'm concerned, if you purchase something, it's yours, to use as you see fit, with no restrictions, period.


No restrictions? Nearly everything you purchase has restrictions on it, many of them with much stronger legal backing and long prison sentences if you violate those restrictions.

This whole licensing when purchasing is really a bait ans switch.


You don't seem to know what bait and switch means.

Purchasing suggests ownership.


Sure, purchasing a license suggests you own it.

What proprietary software companies should do is migrate to a rental model. Renting does not suggest ownership, and comes with implied restrictions. And with renting, you know what you get.


Many proprietary companies do use a renting model. Ownership does not suggest there is no restrictions. When you buy a copyrighted work you are buying a license, and that is true regardless of what copyrighted work you are buying.

But purchasing is ownership, with zero restrictions.


Repeating it doesn't make it true.

Plus, I'm really pretty anti Apple right now (even though I have an iPod, and considered purchasing an iBook). The whole iPhones exploding is the customers fault? C'mon! Do you think Boeing could get away with that? GM? The iPhone - the Ford Pinto of smart phones.


Apple stopped making the iBook 5 years ago, so you also aren't really up to date on Apple's product line. And I find it amusing that you automatically assume that because someone claims an iPhone exploded that they must be the ones telling the truth. Because no one has ever lied to try and extort a payout from a company before.

Thus, even if I were on Apple's side in the Psystar case (and I'm not), I'd want them to lose, just to see them get reamed.


You are definitely not an angry vindictive individual.

Sorry, but I don't want to be anti-Apple. I want to like them.


Clearly, your post just oozed your repressed love for Apple.

But I'm always against huge companies that have serious ethics issues and that screw over their customers.


The only "customer" that Apple could conceivably be considered to be "screwing over" in this case is Psystar, and I don't think that Apple considers them a customer in the first place.

Thank you for another fascinating "legal" analysis of the Psystar case, I can always count on OSNews posts and comments!

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RE[2]: I hope Psystar wins ...
by JeffS on Thu 3rd Sep 2009 16:00 in reply to "RE: I hope Psystar wins ..."
JeffS Member since:
2005-07-12

You are one serious prick, and ignorant beyond description.

I don't like Apple, therefore I'm evil. Got it.

Now go back to masturbating at your Steve Jobs shrine, fanboy.

Seriously, I'm a dissatisfied Apple customer. That is my right to not be happy with the products and services that I have purchased from them. They failed to deliver the value for the money that I expected.

And the exploding iPhone has been filmed, and has come from several different sources.

I want to like Apple because they are great competition for Microsoft. And they make slick products with slick marketing. I just don't like their attitude towards customers.

I also don't like EULAs. So shoot me.

And yes, if I buy a hammer, I can do whatever the hell I want with it, short of using it to hurt someone.

And I don't like the unreasonable restrictions that come with EULAs.

But I know I'm wasting my typing with you, that's for sure. You are such a ridiculous Apple worshiper, you're beyond hope.

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