Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 7th Sep 2009 22:38 UTC, submitted by EvilWells
Debian and its clones Developer Frans Pop, author of debtree, posted an article showing the evolution in size of the GNOME desktop environment in recent Debian releases. The picture he paints isn't particularly pretty: the default GNOME install has increased drastically in size over the years.
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RE[6]: Comment by cjst
by cjst on Tue 8th Sep 2009 18:26 UTC in reply to "RE[5]: Comment by cjst"
cjst
Member since:
2009-03-30


That's called "competition" and it's far from swindling. If you don't do what the customer wants and another company does, charges a fortune for it, but the customer believes it's worth it, then it's not swindling. The customer willingly paid for service rendered by them that you did not provide. That's called competition, and it's one of the things that keeps the market going. Next time, if you don't want to get undercut, do what the customer asks.


The important word here is "believes". Belief is not fact. If you induce someone into believing something that is false then I call it a swindle.

Software that takes more RAM/CPU cycles/HD space than required is bad software.

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RE[7]: Comment by cjst
by darknexus on Tue 8th Sep 2009 18:34 in reply to "RE[6]: Comment by cjst"
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2008-07-15

You can call it a swindle all you want, but in the end it is not what you believe about the software that counts. Most company managers are satisfied with "good enough" and are willing to pay more to get it done quicker. Most of them are not computer geeks, they do not care about disk cycles and CPU execution times (a few ms here and there makes no difference to them at all). You can rail against it all you want, but in the end you're still out the money they gave to someone else because you wouldn't do it in the way or the timeframe they wanted. If you're writing software for someone else, your beliefs are irrelevant. Your objective is to satisfy them, not yourself. If you don't get it done fast enough, your beliefs aren't going to get them to give you more time.

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RE[8]: Comment by cjst
by cjst on Tue 8th Sep 2009 18:51 in reply to "RE[7]: Comment by cjst"
cjst Member since:
2009-03-30

You can call it a swindle all you want, but in the end it is not what you believe about the software that counts. Most company managers are satisfied with "good enough" and are willing to pay more to get it done quicker. Most of them are not computer geeks, they do not care about disk cycles and CPU execution times (a few ms here and there makes no difference to them at all). You can rail against it all you want, but in the end you're still out the money they gave to someone else because you wouldn't do it in the way or the timeframe they wanted. If you're writing software for someone else, your beliefs are irrelevant. Your objective is to satisfy them, not yourself. If you don't get it done fast enough, your beliefs aren't going to get them to give you more time.


What you say is true, but it doesn't have to be that way.

If everyone starts to think that nothing can be done about it and that one has to bow to the system, then it won't change.

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