Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 7th Sep 2009 22:38 UTC, submitted by EvilWells
Debian and its clones Developer Frans Pop, author of debtree, posted an article showing the evolution in size of the GNOME desktop environment in recent Debian releases. The picture he paints isn't particularly pretty: the default GNOME install has increased drastically in size over the years.
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RE[4]: Comment by kaiwai
by kaiwai on Wed 9th Sep 2009 02:03 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by kaiwai"
kaiwai
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2005-07-06

The solution does already exist, and have been largely deployed already. It continue to evolve and improve to cover more and more hardware classes. The name is Solid.


But the problem is that Solid has been written from the ground up whose only consideration is Linux - if you want to make it available on a non-Linux system you're required to either change your operating system to be have more like Linux or you have to majorly change things in Solid.

Add to the fact that Solid is a KDE project - I don't see it making its way over to GNOME anytime soon. I thought DeviceKit might be the silver bullet but as I read more into it - it is just as bound to Linux as was HAL. I swear there is a subculture within the open source world who seem to be hell bent on a Linux monoculture than developing solutions that are agnostic and promote diversity.

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RE[5]: Comment by kaiwai
by Morty on Wed 9th Sep 2009 08:10 in reply to "RE[4]: Comment by kaiwai"
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2005-07-06

But the problem is that Solid has been written from the ground up whose only consideration is Linux .

Wrong, it was writen as an abstraction layer above the OS, designed to handle different OS mechanisms. It abstracts away the OS spesific part for the application developers.

- if you want to make it available on a non-Linux system you're required to either change your operating system to be have more like Linux or you have to majorly change things in Solid.

No you don't, you only have to write Solid backends to talk to your OS spesific functions. Major changes to Solid is not needed, since this is exactly what it was designed to do. Think of it as Phonon for hardware. Besides Solid alrady have functionality for *BSD, Windows and OSX.

Add to the fact that Solid is a KDE project - I don't see it making its way over to GNOME anytime soon.

There you are right, the famed Gnome NIH syndrome will make that a certanty. More likely they will implement their own version in a couple of years.

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RE[5]: Comment by kaiwai
by cjst on Wed 9th Sep 2009 11:27 in reply to "RE[4]: Comment by kaiwai"
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2009-03-30

I swear there is a subculture within the open source world who seem to be hell bent on a Linux monoculture than developing solutions that are agnostic and promote diversity.


Well having KDE, GNOME, X.org littered with piles of abstraction layers to be able to run on every OS out there is "monoculture" too. It would be more "diverse" if all OSes had a different desktop solution tailored to the OS. Anyway "monoculture" and "diversity" are buzzwords.

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