Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 9th Sep 2009 22:29 UTC, submitted by lemur2
Linux Open source 3D graphics drivers for ATI R600 garphics cards has been submitted to the kernel-next tree for possible inclusion in the Linux kernel 2.6.32. "David Airlie has pushed a horde of new code into his drm-next Git tree, which is what will get pulled into the Linux 2.6.32 kernel once the merge window is open. Most prominently, this new DRM code brings support for kernel mode-setting with R600 class hardware as well as 3D support."
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RE[4]: Things are Still a Mess
by kaiwai on Thu 10th Sep 2009 03:50 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Things are Still a Mess"
kaiwai
Member since:
2005-07-06

That is all fine from a personal point of view. I too bought my last hardware with ATI graphics specifically because ATI published the specifications for open source developers. Excellent. Kudos to AMD/ATI.

However, having said that, it is still important that open source doesn't abandon those people who have nvidia hardware, IMO.

For that reason, even though I wouldn't get nvidia hardware myself, I still applaud the efforts of the Nouveau project.


But the problem is with the Nouveau is the impression I get is the same I get from Wine. It sounds very nice to do it for compatibility reasons but it can be a double edged sword. Through the continued development of Nouveau Nvidia can easily keep the status quo and claim they don't have to cooperate because the OSS world is doing fine and dandy.

Apparently they have Xrender hardware acceleration working (so KDE4 should be good to go), and they have made strides towards (but still have some way to go yet) for KMS, Gallium 3D support, 3D support in general, video support etc, etc.

Still, it works well enough for desktop use such that Fedora have been able to adopt it for the default desktop. Even if you don't like nvidia, this is still a good thing for users.


Like I said, Nouveau is a double edged sword.

Then again, I question how many end users have Nvidia GPU's given that most of the time I come across people with Intel X3100 or X4500 in their laptops.

Mind you, I might be proven wrong and because of the additional infrastructure put in place within Linux that more companies are willing to open up specifications.

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jabbotts Member since:
2007-09-06

My choice was based on the 8800 GPU being the best value at my time of upgrade. Sadly, the 9600 and later GPU seem to be tweaked 8800 boards until you hit the 260+ GPU chips. Nvidia's drivers have been good though and if Nvidia can keep competitive with the open source development rate then I'm ok with that. If they drop support for the 8800 boards without providing the community driver project specs to keep going; I'll have an issue.

I also hear that man of the Nvidia developers also work on the community driver in there spare time. It'd be nice if the company officially backed the project but having the same devs on both drivers is still a benefit.

Now, when my next GPU upgrade comes around, I'll be reconsidering ATI, Nvidia and any competitive boards but it'll still be who has the best performance and support across platforms. Maybe it'll be ATI by then, this is the first GPU I've purchased that wasn't from them but the flakey as crap drivers and addon apps under both Windows and Linux did me in with my last AIW board. We'll see how AMD's new open policy does before I give them my money again.

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