Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 10th Sep 2009 19:41 UTC, submitted by poundsmack
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RE[2]: They should have done this sooner.
by Adurbe on Thu 10th Sep 2009 22:48
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RE[3]: They should have done this sooner.
by poundsmack on Thu 10th Sep 2009 23:25
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"didn't you know they all jumped to that other sparc specialist... no wait... they prob sat in their jobs continuing to work and be paid."
ya its a shame no one else makes a SPARC product... oh wait. http://www.fujitsu.com/global/services/computing/server/sparcenterp...
In fact, Sun liked Fujitsu's chips so much... ah forget it, i don't have time to feed the trolls. (thats not true, i do have the time, but i just don't feel like it today).
RE[2]: They should have done this sooner.
by segedunum on Fri 11th Sep 2009 00:57
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The core talent hasn't gone anywhere. I have no idea why people continue to believe this.
Probably because there's a lot of pretty strong rumours and firm events to suggest that all is not well, and many are people who have been with the company for a long time?
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/04/08/sun_chip_geek_quits/ (this guy definitely qualifies as 'talent')
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/10/23/bechtolsheim_still_at_sun/ (which seems to be some sort of 'Buy my company' arrangement)
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/03/25/sun_yen_juniper/
They also laid off about 2,000 people in September 2008, a lot of them skilled workers who had been at Sun for some time. Another few thousand went this year, and these were just the latest in a long line of culls over the past few years.
Quite how you can say that there isn't a problem with talent leaving, distractions and morale there I don't know. It's an open 'pretend' secret in many circles and the result of a classic case of being in a market where costs are too high but not being able to maintain what you have when you cut.
RE[3]: They should have done this sooner.
by binarycrusader on Fri 11th Sep 2009 03:39
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"The core talent hasn't gone anywhere. I have no idea why people continue to believe this.
Probably because there's a lot of pretty strong rumours and firm events to suggest that all is not well, and many are people who have been with the company for a long time?
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Quite how you can say that there isn't a problem with talent leaving, distractions and morale there I don't know. It's an open 'pretend' secret in many circles and the result of a classic case of being in a market where costs are too high but not being able to maintain what you have when you cut. "
I'll put it very plainly, I know *many* of the engineers that work on Solaris at Sun and they haven't gone anywhere. The media likes to make big noise about people that leave whenever a company is having problems, but that's all it is: noise.
It's true that Sun has laid off many people, but so did a lot of other companies over the last two years (hello, recession!). Yet, despite that, I can tell you with certainty that Sun has kept its core talent, and none of them really want to leave.







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The core talent hasn't gone anywhere. I have no idea why people continue to believe this.