Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 14th Sep 2009 06:04 UTC
BeOS & Derivatives After eight years of hard work, the day has finally arrived. Today, September 14, the Haiku project has released its very first alpha release. With the goal of recreating one of the most beloved operating systems in history, the BeOS, they took on no small task, but it seems as if everything is finally starting to come together. Let's talk about the history of the BeOS, where Haiku comes from, and what the Alpha is like.
Thread beginning with comment 384017
To view parent comment, click here.
To read all comments associated with this story, please click here.
RE[3]: Comment by kaiwai
by KugelKurt on Mon 14th Sep 2009 19:19 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by kaiwai"
KugelKurt
Member since:
2005-07-06

Never say never. Haiku's license is not as infective as Linux's, so I expect to see growing corporate support in the following years.

Believe it or not, but many corporations actually love the GPL. When they invest money into GPLed software development, they can be sure no other corporation just takes their work and making money without contributing anything back.
Contributing to GPL software is like an unofficial joint venture.

I'm not saying that the same cannot be achieved with MIT-licensed software. That requires a higher degree of trust, though, and corporate managers often don't have that trust.

If the license was a huge decisive factor, Intel, IBM and all the other corporation would be pushing FreeBSD and not Linux.

Haiku can only be of special interest for hardware manufacturers if it has something special. RAM consumption isn't a key factor, because Linux itself can be configured to have low requirements (heck, Linux runs on phones and embedded hardware).
Haiku does not have a netbook-optimized GUI. With Moblin and KDE's plasma-netbook, Linux has two free ones already.

I'm a huge fan of Haiku, but that does not mean that Haiku will be a commercial smash hit anytime soon. Haiku is a nice little hobby OS and an active community is all Haiku needs.
If some vendor picks Haiku up, I'll be happy. If no vendor does (the likely scenario), the community can still thrive.

Reply Parent Score: 3

RE[4]: Comment by kaiwai
by hufman on Tue 15th Sep 2009 02:46 in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by kaiwai"
hufman Member since:
2008-10-11

The benefit for MIT or BSD, as opposed to GPL, is that they can make their own closed-source drivers for the system. GPL prevents this in Linux, and so Linux would theoretically have less support from big hardware vendors than Haiku would, if they were on equal footing.

Reply Parent Score: 1

RE[5]: Comment by kaiwai
by kaiwai on Tue 15th Sep 2009 05:29 in reply to "RE[4]: Comment by kaiwai"
kaiwai Member since:
2005-07-06

The benefit for MIT or BSD, as opposed to GPL, is that they can make their own closed-source drivers for the system. GPL prevents this in Linux, and so Linux would theoretically have less support from big hardware vendors than Haiku would, if they were on equal footing.


Just to make a minor addition; the problem is GPL not LGPL. Right now Linus has said that he'll allow binary drivers to be compiled against Linux but according to GPL those drivers have to be open sourced and licensed under GPL. This why the problem I have had has always been with GPL and not LGPL. LGPL provides a balanced approach where as the GPL is a one way transaction where there is no community outside that of GPL.

Reply Parent Score: 3

RE[5]: Comment by kaiwai
by KugelKurt on Tue 15th Sep 2009 14:28 in reply to "RE[4]: Comment by kaiwai"
KugelKurt Member since:
2005-07-06

There are FOSS drivers for pretty much every piece of mainstream hardware

Reply Parent Score: 2