Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 17th Sep 2009 18:39 UTC
Internet & Networking The draft of the HTML5 specification has been under discussion for a while now, but despite the fact that it's not yet finished, all major browsers have implemented at least the most important aspects of it - except Microsoft. The company did provide substantive criticism of the specification in early August, but now the company has also endorsed the video and audio tags.
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RE[2]: comply?
by tomcat on Thu 17th Sep 2009 19:23 UTC in reply to "RE: comply?"
tomcat
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2006-01-06

Easy to understand: its for the money... HTML5 will be running on nearly everything, from cellphone, desktop, to server. You do not need then a Windows OS, nor WPF or Silverlight.


Hyperbole. Web apps are very prominent, but they aren't exactly pushing aside traditional apps like MS Office to the degree that you're suggesting.

By the way using Silverlight on Bing.com is a good chess move. You have suddenly as much silverlight user as bing user (and soon as windows users). This give to Silverlight a critical mass to draw developer attention.


Good points.

I wish google would use SVG and Theora on its search page... It's all about your files, and soon where you save them (in cloud vs your disk)


I have a feeling that Google is going to start feeling some heat from Bing 2.0, and they will adapt.

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RE[3]: comply?
by Kroc on Thu 17th Sep 2009 21:42 in reply to "RE[2]: comply?"
Kroc Member since:
2005-11-10

Microsoft are making Office:Web 2010.

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RE[3]: comply?
by SReilly on Thu 17th Sep 2009 22:37 in reply to "RE[2]: comply?"
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2006-12-28

How is that an exaggeration? More and more desktop applications are being moved into the cloud and no matter if we think that is good or bad, MS will be doing the same, to whatever extent, in order to remain any kind of player on the scene.

By the way, hyperbole is the wrong term. I've seen you use it far too often to point out exaggerations. You might want to look up the actual meaning of the term.

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RE[3]: comply?
by segedunum on Thu 17th Sep 2009 23:27 in reply to "RE[2]: comply?"
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2005-07-06

Hyperbole. Web apps are very prominent, but they aren't exactly pushing aside traditional apps like MS Office to the degree that you're suggesting.

While there are still a lot of large, rich client applications out there, and being developed, most of the small applications that fill niches and vertical markets that would once have been written as rich client applications in something like VB started being developed as web applications years ago. It's far easier to develop and ultimately to support.

Microsoft has lost those developers, probably forever, and assuming that people would rewrite everything in .Net and that the web world will fall back into the arms of Microsoft APIs isn't helping.

I have a feeling that Google is going to start feeling some heat from Bing 2.0

ROTFL.

Edited 2009-09-17 23:31 UTC

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RE[3]: comply?
by mabhatter on Fri 18th Sep 2009 14:50 in reply to "RE[2]: comply?"
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2005-07-17

"Easy to understand: its for the money... HTML5 will be running on nearly everything, from cellphone, desktop, to server. You do not need then a Windows OS, nor WPF or Silverlight.


Hyperbole. Web apps are very prominent, but they aren't exactly pushing aside traditional apps like MS Office to the degree that you're suggesting.

By the way using Silverlight on Bing.com is a good chess move. You have suddenly as much silverlight user as bing user (and soon as windows users). This give to Silverlight a critical mass to draw developer attention.


Good points.

I wish google would use SVG and Theora on its search page... It's all about your files, and soon where you save them (in cloud vs your disk)


I have a feeling that Google is going to start feeling some heat from Bing 2.0, and they will adapt.
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What your missing is that mobile Safari on iPhone has show that proprietary mobile pages are dead n gone. The killer feature was mobile safari's ability to "smart zoom" standards compliant pages and "massage" the UI to meet the needs of a mobile user.. on the fly with no actual page markup changes. Apple's "iphone web app SDK" already implements some of the easy HTML5 changes that don't break most standards compliant browsers too badly now. Best yet, all this is for "free", no proprietary page extensions or custom browsers, no flash or silverlight.. just clean tools everybody has been ranting about being underused for nearly a decade.

All those "extra" tags give mobile and handicap accessible browsers the info they need to pick out content from navigation quickly and easily without expensive, cpu intensive "AI" needed. HTML5 is the spring cleaning needed for 5-6 years on the web design front.

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