Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 22nd Sep 2009 21:54 UTC
Intel The Intel Developer Forum is currently in full swing, but it kicked off with a speech by Intel CEO Paul Otellini. Well, there's bad news for those of us who long for a time where lots of different architectures compete with one another, ensuring that technology is moved forward. Otellini's plans for Intel basically come down to one thing: x86 everywhere.
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by jack_perry on Wed 23rd Sep 2009 01:32 UTC in reply to "..."
jack_perry
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2005-07-06

PowerPC makes programmers' lives easier.

ARM everywhere makes programmers' lives easier.

68000 everywhere makes programmers' lives easier, and we'd all get back to programming as God intended to boot: in 32 bits. ;-)

This much is sure: x86 will not be everywhere anytime soon, at least as long as there are embedded systems.

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by phoenix on Wed 23rd Sep 2009 15:51 in reply to "RE: ..."
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2005-07-11

This much is sure: x86 will not be everywhere anytime soon, at least as long as there are embedded systems.


Aren't 80386 and 80486 still used quite a bit in the embedded and machine control industries?

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by transputer_guy on Wed 23rd Sep 2009 21:22 in reply to "RE: ..."
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2005-07-08

I was at the Embedded Systems Conference in Boston yesterday, and indeedy Intel Atoms really were everywhere, but so too were ARMs and a tiny scattering of PICs and pretty much nothing else. (Found out the PIC32 is really a MIPs ISA though). PowerPC and 68K-Coldfire no show even though IBM and Freescale were there.

As much I prefer almost any other 32b architecture to x86, the Atom pretty much nails it in the important features in industrial embedded, low cost, low power, fanless operation, and tools from the desktop on same ISA.

The ARM is far bigger into deeply embedded ASICs, not sure if Atom will ever do that. So the embedded market splits exclusively between not so cheap ($100 several) miniITX/PC104/custom type Atom boards in tight fanless boxes, and ARMs buried deep inside the custom ASICs in very cost sensitive stuff.

For Intel to be truly everywhere, they would have to allow TSMC and others to add the Atom to their core library for any ASIC customer to use.

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