If you don't like personal, blog-style reporting, you might want to skip this item. A few days ago, during a speech at Software Freedom Day in Boston, Richard Stallman has, at least in my book, crossed a line that I thought he would never cross.
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Member since:2005-06-29
Wow, are we aggressive right there! I guess you use SAMBA?
Both SAMBA and Mono allow people to use Microsoft technologies on non-Microsoft platforms. Please explain the difference to me. I'm sure Microsoft has a number of patents on aspects of the SMB protocol as well - whether the original spec came out of IBM or not.
Please explain to me how Mono is helping a monopolist company, but SAMBA is not. Oh, and please try to explain without expletives.
Let me reiterate that I don't care about Mono, and for all I care, it sinks to the bottom of the ocean. I haven't yet seen any Mono application worth using.
Edited 2009-09-24 15:55 UTC
Member since:2005-07-22
Completely irrelevant. He has a point.
Samba allows people to interact with MS servers from other non-MS servers/desktops. You don't need a MS desktop to access those files in that MS server you have, so you might as well migrate your desktops to Linux.
Mono, on the other hand, is a reimplementation of a MS technology. It pushes MS own agenda with .Net. Remember Win32 is dying and MS needs to make all the world swith to .Net. The more people making programs with .Net, the better for MS. Mono isn't really a problem for MS, because it doesn't implement the Windows GUI, it uses Gtk, which .Net doesn't include. So most .Net applications are Windows only, which is good for MS. You can't run all .Net applications with mono, so there's no problem at all.
There.
Member since:2005-08-12
Because SMB is already established; it's not going anywhere. SAMBA doesn't exist as a replacement for other, proper, solutions. It exists to help people caught in a stranglehold. It's like methadone.
Mono would be fine too if it were used like this, but it's not, people are actually encouraged to use it.
In the first case you're simply adjusting to reality, in the second case you're helping bringing about one that isn't in your best interest.
Member since:2009-06-02
Member since:2009-08-26
OEMs don't sell Linux on the desktop because people don't want it.
Most of the people I know could run Linux if they wanted to. But guess what? They have no reason to. Well all run Vista or Windows 7.
Linux as a desktop doesn't provide enough benefits to make up for the license savings against Windows. On the server however it can be cost effective which is why OEMs like Dell and HP sell it there.
Member since:2005-08-18
Oh? I could have sworn they make a product that is intended to be compatible with a Microsoft product, thus helping Microsoft staying in a power position on the desktop.
Exactly how is Icaza restricting your choice?
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2005-07-06
"De Icaza has done a lot of hard work to advance and promote the Free software community, and whether you like Mono or not, it is still a completely open source project, and enables cross-platform development for those who wish to code in C#. Why doesn't RMS deride the SAMBA guys in the same manner?"
Really? You really don't know the difference? You REALLY, REALLY, REALLY don't know the difference? If not, Microsoft has truly blinded you and there is probably nothing that will be able to help you, but here goes.
The SAMBA people are not helping a Monopolist company. There, I said it. If you still don't get it you have had your nose stuck up Bill Gates rear end for too long and you can't smell anything that isn't *** anymore.
Microsoft hater?
I'm against any group (company or not) that restricts choice.
Want into a computer store and try to order a computer with Linux. I'm not talking about a Whitebox store. I'm talking about stores like BestBuy, Costco, etc. Try to buy a computer with Linux on it with no signs of any kind about Windows. Can't? There you go.
Why can't you buy a computer with Linux on it, pre-installed, instead of Windows? It's easy. It's not that people wouldn't buy them. It's because of marketing money. Dell, HP, etc., know where their bread is buttered. Microsoft "gives" them 10s of millions of dollars a year for advertising which INCLUDES making it hard for anyone to find computers with Linux on their websites and for shipping computers with Linux to BestBuy and other stores.
"But BestBuy isn't ordering them", you might say. Well, it would be rather hard to order something that isn't available to be ordered. And currently, no they are not available to be ordered by companies like BestBuy, or whatever company you like to buy your computer through, with Linux on them.
So, for people that don't want Linux compromised, he really, truly, completely, how else can I say it, the guy IS a traitor and the SAMBA people aren't.