Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 28th Sep 2009 16:18 UTC
Apple If you have Apple's QuickTime media player and/or iTunes installed on your Windows machine, you might want to keep an eye on apple's Software Update tool. Apple is once again using the update tool to push unwanted software onto users' machines without asking for permission.
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RE: Your statement is false
by Thom_Holwerda on Mon 28th Sep 2009 17:54 UTC in reply to "Your statement is false"
Thom_Holwerda
Member since:
2005-06-29

You state that Apple's software update tool on Windows is "push(ing) unwanted software onto user's machines without asking for permission".

Lies.

The user has to choose to install the software by clicking an install button following the software description.


Push != install. Push as in, promote. Coerce. Trick.

Apple has - again - used its software UPDATER to install new software, making it LOOK like an update. In what universe is that acceptable? What if Microsoft did this? The world'd be aflame!

Edited 2009-09-28 18:00 UTC

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RE[2]: Your statement is false
by Mellin on Mon 28th Sep 2009 18:32 in reply to "RE: Your statement is false"
Mellin Member since:
2005-07-06

and microsoft installs add ons to FF without asking at all

http://techgeist.net/2009/05/microsoft-installs-firefox-add-ons-san...

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RE[3]: Your statement is false
by KrimZon on Mon 28th Sep 2009 19:26 in reply to "RE[2]: Your statement is false"
KrimZon Member since:
2009-06-24

And Microsoft got flamed for that too. They're just not being flamed months later in a discussion about Apple.

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RE[2]: Your statement is false
by lemur2 on Mon 28th Sep 2009 23:36 in reply to "RE: Your statement is false"
lemur2 Member since:
2007-02-17

Apple has - again - used its software UPDATER to install new software, making it LOOK like an update. In what universe is that acceptable? What if Microsoft did this? The world'd be aflame!


Well, Microsoft does include an un-installable web browser and media player on every Windows machine in the stores, and it abuses its monopoly position to prevent those same stores from offering their customers a choice of pre-installed OS for the machines sold.

How is that behaviour any different in principle?

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Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

It's not. That's why I've harped on that often enough.

However, that does not make Apple's shenanigans right.

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JoostinOnline Member since:
2009-09-18

I really don't see why people complain about that so much. They also install Notepad but no lawsuits have been made over that. Would you really buy (or download if it is free) an operating system if it started with bare minimum?

For example, you are going to need IE even if you only plan on using Firefox. Why don't you try to download an installation file without an internet browser. It can be done, but it isn't exactly easy.

Personally, I don't think that there is anything wrong with Windows having MS software pre-installed, or OS-X having Apple software pre-installed.

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RE[2]: Your statement is false
by memson on Tue 29th Sep 2009 11:29 in reply to "RE: Your statement is false"
memson Member since:
2006-01-01

But MS update *does* push software. It pushed DotNet, it pushed IE7 and I even saw it push IE8 on recently on a server. I didn't ask for "Genuine advantage" either, which is far worse than anything Apple has pushed.

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RE[3]: Your statement is false
by _txf_ on Tue 29th Sep 2009 15:28 in reply to "RE[2]: Your statement is false"
_txf_ Member since:
2008-03-17

true. However, Microsoft does not have the weight of expectations to deal with. People usually expect the worst from microsoft (not that it isn't deserved).

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