Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 28th Sep 2009 16:18 UTC
Apple If you have Apple's QuickTime media player and/or iTunes installed on your Windows machine, you might want to keep an eye on apple's Software Update tool. Apple is once again using the update tool to push unwanted software onto users' machines without asking for permission.
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RE[3]: what?
by Tony Swash on Mon 28th Sep 2009 18:35 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: what?"
Tony Swash
Member since:
2009-08-22


I think Apple is just an example. Anyone can name even more. Buy an HP notebook and you'll see all the crap and autoupdaters installed by default. One autoupdater does nothing, 10 of them do, both in your battery life, in memory consumption, network polling, etc. It all contributes to make you, the user, more and more disatisfied with your experience.


I hate to say this - I know it will probably annoy some people here - but if you don't like crapware why don't you just get a Mac and relax?

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RE[4]: what?
by sbenitezb on Mon 28th Sep 2009 18:43 in reply to "RE[3]: what?"
sbenitezb Member since:
2005-07-22

Apple is more expensive than (insert hardware vendor). The difference may not be that much in USA, but in my country it is. Even if the prices were similar, people would still buy the Windows PC, because it's what they know and bla bla. It's more of a psychological lock-in, than a harware/software lock-in.

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RE[5]: what?
by Bill Shooter of Bul on Mon 28th Sep 2009 19:57 in reply to "RE[4]: what?"
Bill Shooter of Bul Member since:
2006-07-14

The difference may not be that much in USA,


FYI, Yes the price differential is substantial, even in the US. Or at least you have a much greater choice of hardware selection in non Apple configurations allowing users to buy a more optimal configuration for them than an Apple.

Sometimes someone will price quote an Dell with the *exact* same specs as an Apple computer and find the Apple to be slightly cheaper. But Apple's prices are less variable than Dell's, so that changes over time as the dell is discounted.

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RE[4]: what?
by _txf_ on Mon 28th Sep 2009 18:44 in reply to "RE[3]: what?"
_txf_ Member since:
2008-03-17

So apple understands the need for no crapware and yet they are content to push their own crapware on other operating systems. I'm sure it will be fixed but there are 3 things that I would like here:

1)stop harassing me when there are newer versions of software that I do not want (mobileme, safari).

2)Stop Hiding the unbundled versions of QT from the download sections.

3) Improve their crappy windows software. I bet there are more windows Itunes users than there are in total mac users (can anybody confirm this?)

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RE[4]: what?
by darknexus on Mon 28th Sep 2009 18:57 in reply to "RE[3]: what?"
darknexus Member since:
2008-07-15

I hate to say this - I know it will probably annoy some people here - but if you don't like crapware why don't you just get a Mac and relax?


Well, I can't argue with that logic. I, personally, find the Mac user experience to be the best of the modern-day systems. NOt everyone likes the Mac, however, and given Apple's ridiculous international pricing schemes, many can't justify the cost. Here, in the U.S, the price differential really isn't all that bad and for me, at least, it's worth it as I really do like the Macintosh. I think if Apple were to get their act together concerning international pricing we'd see market share going up in other places as well as the states, but sadly they seem to think just changing a dollar sign to (insert currency of choice here) and leaving the number the same makes a good global pricing scheme. I think some others here are right: they're so focused on the product side of things that they're lacking a bit on the business and administrative side.

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RE[4]: what?
by BallmerKnowsBest on Mon 28th Sep 2009 20:04 in reply to "RE[3]: what?"
BallmerKnowsBest Member since:
2008-06-02

I hate to say this - I know it will probably annoy some people here - but if you don't like crapware why don't you just get a Mac and relax?


If someone is annoyed by Apple crapware on Windows, you seriously think that they'll prefer OS X? It's nothing but Apple crapware.

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RE[4]: what?
by JoostinOnline on Tue 29th Sep 2009 02:51 in reply to "RE[3]: what?"
JoostinOnline Member since:
2009-09-18

I hate to say this - I know it will probably annoy some people here - but if you don't like crapware why don't you just get a Mac and relax?

Because you won't be able to relax while you are on a tight budget. Macs cost way too much for the performance that they offer. When you pick a computer, remember that hardware > software.
Before you get your panties in a bunch, know that I actually own a Macbook (which I hate) so I have experience with Macs. It is slow, the software available is limited (although that isn't so much Apple's fault), and way over-priced. The only reason I got it was because it is payed for through my college tuition.

My laptop that I use is much faster, has a bigger screen, weighs less, runs Vista Ultimate, has 2 gigs of RAM (the Macbook has 1). Guess what, I DIDN'T spend over $1000 dollars for it. It cost me $450 (after $300 in rebates), plus I got a free printer worth $50.

While I can't say that Microsoft (or Linux, BSD, etc.) is perfect, I prefer better hardware for less money.

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RE[5]: what?
by Tony Swash on Tue 29th Sep 2009 10:32 in reply to "RE[4]: what?"
Tony Swash Member since:
2009-08-22


Before you get your panties in a bunch


OK who told you about the pantie?! have you told anyone else? Please don't tell my wife. If I give you some cash will you destroy the photos ;)

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RE[5]: what?
by Tony Swash on Tue 29th Sep 2009 10:52 in reply to "RE[4]: what?"
Tony Swash Member since:
2009-08-22

Before you get your panties in a bunch, know that I actually own a Macbook (which I hate) so I have experience with Macs. It is slow, the software available is limited


I am just curious, but given that you can run any Windows or Linux program on a Mac, what is the software that you say is unavailable?

In my experience a Mac platform running on Intel chips (ie any Mac made in the last few years) is the most compatible platform I have ever used. I often have the Mac OS, Windows (XP, Vista or 7) and Linux all running at the same time on my Mac and I can switch between them with a click of the mouse.

I am hard pushed to think of any program that won't run on a mac so please help me out by telling me what programs you think are unavailable.

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