Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 28th Sep 2009 16:18 UTC
Apple If you have Apple's QuickTime media player and/or iTunes installed on your Windows machine, you might want to keep an eye on apple's Software Update tool. Apple is once again using the update tool to push unwanted software onto users' machines without asking for permission.
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RE[2]: Your statement is false
by lemur2 on Mon 28th Sep 2009 23:36 UTC in reply to "RE: Your statement is false"
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Apple has - again - used its software UPDATER to install new software, making it LOOK like an update. In what universe is that acceptable? What if Microsoft did this? The world'd be aflame!

Well, Microsoft does include an un-installable web browser and media player on every Windows machine in the stores, and it abuses its monopoly position to prevent those same stores from offering their customers a choice of pre-installed OS for the machines sold.

How is that behaviour any different in principle?

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Thom_Holwerda Member since:

It's not. That's why I've harped on that often enough.

However, that does not make Apple's shenanigans right.

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RE[4]: Your statement is false
by dvhh on Tue 29th Sep 2009 06:37 in reply to "RE[3]: Your statement is false"
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Because they are Apple, and that the distortion field is strong with them.

I agree that MS have done the same ( especially with WGA, which in my book is worst ). Apple have been bad, but that's not like they are pushing spyware on your computer ( I think itune/Safari already do that ).

I would say at least it's a bad PR move from Apple ( as it can happen a lot recently ), and can be corrected with better PR ( sorry, our bad one of our guy mistake the type of update it was, won't do it again).

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JoostinOnline Member since:

I really don't see why people complain about that so much. They also install Notepad but no lawsuits have been made over that. Would you really buy (or download if it is free) an operating system if it started with bare minimum?

For example, you are going to need IE even if you only plan on using Firefox. Why don't you try to download an installation file without an internet browser. It can be done, but it isn't exactly easy.

Personally, I don't think that there is anything wrong with Windows having MS software pre-installed, or OS-X having Apple software pre-installed.

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boldingd Member since:

A co-worker across the hall was swearing vitriolically at his Win7 beta installation, precisely because I had given him an mpeg movie to put in a power-point presentation, and the beta apparently didn't ship with Windows Media Player, so he couldn't play it. So, I kinda think you're right; people make a big deal out of Microsoft's bundling IE with Windows, but Microsoft bundles a lot of other software -- like a firewall, a basic AV scanner, a text editor, an RTF word-processing application, a file sharing client, an image viewer -- and nobody complains about that. And, so long as I can replace those components freely, they're probably right to do it -- or at least, not wrong.

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