Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 29th Sep 2009 22:19 UTC
GNU, GPL, Open Source Well, this is refreshing. While Richard Stallman is a staunch critic of anything closed and non-Free, his ire seems mostly directed towards DRM and Microsoft. However, a lesser known fact is that he often talks about Apple's Mac OS X too in his speeches. During those speeches, he repeatedly claimed Mac OS X contained a backdoor which allowed Apple to forcibly impose software changes upon users. Stallman has now posted a retraction for those claims.
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RE[5]: Give the man a rest
by BluenoseJake on Wed 30th Sep 2009 17:31 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: Give the man a rest"
BluenoseJake
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2005-08-11

He's inflexible because he can't seem to grasp that if you have the freedom to free your code, then you also have the freedom to close it. He says you have certain rights, but simultaneously takes your right to choose away from you.

He cannot see the reality of the situation, that developers also have the right to release their software in any form they chose, they have the right to get paid for their work, and honestly, all the donations in the world will not help FOSS feed all the developers in the world or their families.

Proprietary software also has a place in the world, and RMS refuses to see that. I use a mix of FOSS and closed source software, choosing whatever does the job the best.

That's true freedom, the freedom to choose.

Do a google search, and you'll see that RMS has been doing more harm then good for several years.

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RE[6]: Give the man a rest
by spiderman on Wed 30th Sep 2009 19:44 in reply to "RE[5]: Give the man a rest"
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2008-10-23

Right, so you don't agree with him. He has been saying the same thing for more than the last years though. He's been saying that since 1984 at least. There is nothing new here. The man still believe what he believed in 1984. The movement he started with others was just about that: free software, as defined by the FSF. It's his movement and the FSF is all about free software. He is not doing anything wrong by saying what the FSF stands for. He may not convince you but you are against the core principle of the FSF and nothing will convince you that the FSF is right anyway, be it RMS or anybody.
So the man did nothing wrong. You just don't agree with him. By all means, say it, but attacking the man personally is low in my opinion. You are not doing your cause any good.

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RE[7]: Give the man a rest
by BluenoseJake on Wed 30th Sep 2009 20:22 in reply to "RE[6]: Give the man a rest"
BluenoseJake Member since:
2005-08-11

He may not convince you but you are against the core principle of the FSF and nothing will convince you that the FSF is right anyway, be it RMS or anybody.
So the man did nothing wrong. You just don't agree with him. By all means, say it, but attacking the man personally is low in my opinion. You are not doing your cause any good.


Whoa there buddy, back the hell up. Don't tell me what I agree with and what I don't. I agree with FOSS in principle, but I know there are practical limitations to what FOSS can accomplish at this time.

I disagree with RMS, however, in his remarks about women in programming(horrifically backwards), his treatment of apple in this whole backdoor thing, his total condemnation of closed source software (some closed source software is very good, and his attempts to take my choice away.

I will choose to use the best tool for the job, and if that happens to be closed source, then until there is a comparable FOSS tool, then give me the closed source.

The man has done a lot wrong, imo, that damages the movement as a whole. As a representative of that movement (which I do support), I believe he is to reactionary, to literal and too inflexible to be a good leader, and should step aside. This is not a personal attack, but as somebody who hopes that FOSS succeeds in the long run, I hope he goes away soon, or at least calms the hell down.

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